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Flying J Performance Horses Providing foundation training to suit multiple disciplines and breeding quality QH’s. Also retraining

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18/10/2023

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A great re-share. A letter to trainers and owners...

If you’re going to accept the position to start billing a client, remember the day that you yourself, were a client that was being billed.

In my unique position where I try to be my own best client instead of taking outside horses, I get horses from all trainers, the good and bad, the top and bottom. Either buying one myself that fell between the cracks, taking one on consignment that “couldn’t make a Futurity horse” to resell, or cleaning up a sinking ship money pit for a client that just needs someone to see them as more than a number.

I am often disappointed by the condition in which horses come to me. Some horses being with a trainer over a year, and not having any foundation, or having been in “barrel training” and frankly, not having much of any kind of training. Horses that haven’t been rode, don’t break at the poll. Don’t move off the inside rein. Can’t catch leads. Poor body condition. Obviously not fed enough. Bad teeth. Needs treated for epm. Needs vet work. Won’t load. 🙄 Just things that should be covered when you have spent $10,000+ on the training bill.

Often these horses come from “top” trainers. Now, you can’t put everyone in this category, I get really nice horses and prospects from trainers too, but there are a few out there that make my job much more difficult than it has to be and wastes a lot of time and money on my clients dime.

Statistically, if you want to Futurity, your Futurity horse is not going to make. Sorry. Mine too lol... that’s just math and odds are against us. Find yourself a trainer that will be honest and tell you:

•“Yes, this horse is a contender.”
•“This horse probably won’t make a Futurity horse but will make a solid open horse.”
•“This horse isn’t mentally ready.”
•”This horse doesn’t fit my style and should move along to someone else.”
•”This horse needs to be sold.”
•”If you pay me for a year of training... you’ll never recoup your money out of this horse.”
•”This horse will be a perfect 3D horse.”

Many times a trainer thinks it junk, and it’s just lacking a solid foundation. There is no secret to my program when I buy those horses, I focus on their foundation and make sure they aren’t sore... you’d be amazed how many horses can be NICE horses when someone spends a minute trying to figure that particular horse out. There is also junk out there too. I’ve gotten them from trainers who said they were junk... and I agreed, and we all moved on. Sold as the perfect “beer drinking horse!” Not a barrel horse. 🍻 Some horses don’t want to be barrel horses.

Whatever the case may be, you just need someone that’s on your team and not just on your checkbook. I have told people “Hey... we are not going to make any money.” And they tell me they don’t care, that they love Fluffy Firewater and to rock on anyway... and that’s fine! Because they are making an educated decision. I have told clients “Hey this won’t make a juve c**t but should make a nice open horse” and they say sell because their goal is to have a top contender, that doesn’t mean it’s a bad horse, it’s just not a fit for this particular clients goals. Whatever your goals are... it takes a team to reach them.

At the end of the day, 75%+ of people are not going to make money on their horse. Is this your business? Well then you need to try and make a profit. Is this your hobby? Well I don’t plan to make money on my wakeboard boat and you shouldn’t plan to make money on your horse. If you do make money on your hobby, it’s typically luck more than the general rule.

My least favorite call to make though, is telling my clients to “cut their losses” because by the time they pay me to fix said horse, we will be so deep and behind on this sinking ship there is literally no way to get their money back out of it. I make that call, ALL THE TIME. I’m over it.

So, here is what I recommend:

1: OWNERS: Check on your horses, get videos here and there. You don’t have to have someone that’s communicator of the year, but even if all I could send was a video from my phone propped up in the sand, it’s better than nothing. A text here or there. I will tell you, I talk to my clients who don’t call and demand feedback all the time WAYYYYYY more than those that want to be involved in every single aspect. 🤷🏻‍♀️ it is what it is.

2: OWNERS: Be willing to do the vet work. I cannot out train pain, and if you’re doing your part, then there is no reason to not expect the trainer to do theirs.

3: OWNERS: Make sure your horse is progressing, I understand some trainers are slower than others and we are all investing in the finished product, but dang, if they have been riding your horse for 5 months, you should see some sort of progress. That IS enough time to have an idea about a horse and their potential for the long haul. Now owners, there is no such thing as a finished horse in 90 days, but you should still see steady progression.

4: OWNERS: Ask people about the trainers, ask the trainers about their style. It’s a cut throat business but if ten people tell you the same thing... you should probably believe it. Think about if you want your horse to be one of 5 or one of 30... I see programs that have both and it can go either way, a great horse at the end or a horse that comes out knowing literally nothing. This is personal preference. Some trainers are probably too easy on horses, some trainers are probably too rough. Some trainers just have their help riding the horses most days... is this what you think you’re paying for?

If we had video cameras set up in the home arenas, how many trainers would lose half their clientele? Training horses is really a terrible business model and it’s not some huge money making venture. What you can make is solely based on what you can produce in a day. If I sell cookies... I can train someone else to bake them and make more cookies. When I train a horse, my clients are paying me for my skills and feel, I cannot train someone else to produce what I can. I wish I could though, my days would be a lot easier with a clone. 😅

5: TRAINERS: Do not recommend someone else unless you KNOW A: They WILL ride and B: They are capable. All the time I hear “so and so recommended this person and I just can’t believe it’s gone this badly.” It makes you look bad and you didn’t even do anyone wrong.

6: TRAINERS: If you are a junior trainer... handle your s**t! Ride the horse. Do a good job!! These people are giving you a chance. Someone is LITERALLY paying you to learn! Do the absolute best you can.

7: I don’t care what anyone tells me, if a trainer does not like your horse... you’re not getting a great job. (Im ready for the fb crucification!) 🔪 I ride ALOT of a**holes... that are talented, and I still don’t hate them. If I have a horse I hate, it LEAVES MY PROPERTY. If it doesn’t fit me, I tell the owners. I have sent horses to other trainers because I think they will ride them better than I can. I promise I get more business for that. Not less. When I send a horse to someone myself, in my opinion that’s the most important question I can ask... “Do you like this horse?”

8: TRAINERS: I know a lot of horsemen are real good at horses, and real bad at business. Try to think of yourself receiving a bill. Pro-rate them. If you over charge your clients, I guarantee that will effect future business. I have had friends pull 3-4 horses from training because they feel they got overcharged for something and the “if they would do it for this... what else are they doing it for?” mentality. I understand a lot of trainers are hungry, but don’t loose a $15k a year client for an extra $40 bucks in fuel. I see trainers billing my clients for full months, when I saw said trainer, every day for 2 weeks, 4 states away, with no training horses, and no one at home picking up the slack. I also don’t care if you’re friends. Business is business. Keep clear boundaries.

9: TRAINERS: Don’t assume your client doesn’t know. The horse business can be quite large, but quite small. There are ways to find out if your horse was entered, exhibitioned, went to this place or that. If they won money, hit barrels. Whatever. Just be honest, and fair. You might not be their only trainer.

10: REMEMBER: Those clients that don’t know much today, they will learn, and they will know when they got screwed over, and even the best of us, have been screwed over in the horse business, myself included. I have sent horses off and paid high bills on horses that came back to me in worse condition then when they left. At the end of it, I now know they weren’t getting rode... or I was paying the intern to ride. 🙄

I see a lot of shady horse deals go down too. One day, those clients will know...

I have clients that have bought 6,7,8,9+ horses from me. Clients that have been good to me for 5-10 years. Repeat customers are the bread and butter to this business. What’s that saying... 10% of your clientele will be 90% of your revenue. Don’t forget about the little guy too, just because they don’t spend $100k a year doesn’t mean they won’t in the future. At the end of the day, you can do your absolute best and things will still go wrong, that’s just life, but if you do a good job, you are honest, and try, you WILL be successful.

‼️𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐄𝐃‼️I have some friends looking for horses, if you have anything of interest please message me. 1) 12-14hh any bre...
05/09/2023

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I have some friends looking for horses, if you have anything of interest please message me.

1) 12-14hh any breed or colour. Needs to be going kindly under saddle anything else is a bonus. Needs to be suitable for a young rider. Very experienced horsey home. Budget $4k

2) Ashs or QH (will look at x breds) broken or unbroken, must be sound. Budget $5k

3) 14-15hh QH or Ash (will look at X breds) wanting to lease or option to lease to buy. Must be broken in, green broke is fine. Must be sound as looking for future competition horse. Very experienced horsey home

Must be located in WA

Yesterday was Dental Day 🦷 much to everyone’s excitement. It’s very important to the health of your horses to keep up to...
21/04/2023

Yesterday was Dental Day 🦷 much to everyone’s excitement. It’s very important to the health of your horses to keep up to date with your horse’s equine dentals and definitely pays off in the long run not only while under saddle but to the overall health of your horse. Remember if they can’t use their teeth properly to grind food they won’t be getting all the nutrients out of whats going in their mouth.

Thank you to Jess and Ebony from Pimbury Equine AU for making the travel out and providing top care to the horses, its greatly appreciated 😄. Pimbury equine is WA based working out of different areas across the state, if your wanting to get your horses done definitely give them a message.

21/04/2023

🔆Just want to remind everyone we are currently taking some time off training and retraining standardbreds until Sept/ October as ive had a heap of inquires. I will not be taking any bookings for horse training until after I return and i will no longer be c**t starting outside horses. I look forward to returning and offering some new services to the program.

🌹Guys First Lady aka Neffi 🌹Guys First Down Fame x Sensational Lady (Eyesa Sensational x Dinki Di Two X A Lady) Bred in ...
10/03/2023

🌹Guys First Lady aka Neffi 🌹

Guys First Down Fame x Sensational Lady (Eyesa Sensational x Dinki Di Two X A Lady)

Bred in purple can not wait to start campaigning this young mare this spring.

10/03/2023

🎉🎉How exciting 🎉🎉

Tamara Barnhart and Guys Sweet Design win the contender round at the American and head into the finals for a shot at 1M

Guys Sweet Design is by Guys First Down Fame.

Hi everyone ☺️I’ve been messaged a lot over the passed weeks and yes I have a few standardbred retrainers ready in the n...
20/09/2022

Hi everyone ☺️

I’ve been messaged a lot over the passed weeks and yes I have a few standardbred retrainers ready in the next couple weeks and some other horses. I will put ads up with their information instead of messaging everyone, please take your time to read the ads properly and contact for a viewing. When viewing your more than welcome to look at multiple available as long as notice is given as others may be looking the same day.

Note- All horses are located at Pingelly
Thank you

25/08/2022

Just showing how athletic a standardbred pacer really is in slow motion.

🎥 video credit-chrisgoodenvisuals

So true, every horse is different and they adapt differently to their new surroundings and owners. It’s our responsibili...
18/08/2022

So true, every horse is different and they adapt differently to their new surroundings and owners. It’s our responsibility to make them feel safe and help them though that transition.

You Got Sold a Dangerous Horse...

You were so careful to buy the horse that came with all the assurances it was going to be a good fit for you and your family.

It was quiet, it was reliable and had been there and done that and had no issues.

Your test ride went great. Vet check didn't show any red flags. The horse loaded on the trailer fine to come home.

A couple of months later and now things are very different.

The horse is hard to catch, rug, lead, won't go on the trailer. It bites, threatens, keeps getting emotional and can't handling things. Feeding it is scary and handling it is a nightmare.

And don't even talk about riding it...that is even worse!

The horse is dangerous. You must have been lied to and horse probably drugged when you rode it.

You contacted the old owners and they tell you it must be something you have done to the horse as it never did any of these things to them.

You are furious as there is NOTHING you have done wrong....NOTHING.

Someone says that maybe you should get help with the horse. This is ridiculous because even your neighbour can't catch the horse and it rushed through gates with them.

It is the HORSE. It is a dud, it is dangerous.

The old owners refuse to take the horse back. You are stuck.

Someone suggest the horse might be in pain. You get the vet out. You struggle to handle the horse for the vet. The vet struggles to handle the horse but can find nothing obviously wrong, except it is hard to handle and highly emotional.

Maybe it needs drugs. A chemical restraint for its difficult behaviour? It seems like it is the only option.

Again, someone mentions getting help with the horse but that makes you angry as THIS horse is clearly dangerous. Your neighbour and the vet have basically confirmed this. Who do they think you are anyway - a beginner, stupid??

Another friend suggests that maybe the horse needs groundwork. You smile, nod and fume on the inside. The horse is SO dangerous to even lead through a gate. You have never done groundwork but you know this horse is out of the league of groundwork.....

Want to hear the truth?

This horse has just had its world turned upside down by moving home. Everything has changed. Every reliable thing it could understand and navigate has changed. Your routine, the way you do everything with it is different.

This change is stressful. The horse will experience stress in this transition and stress makes horses more reactive and more emotional. This is NORMAL and managing the horse through this change is something we have to LEARN how to do.

Is your horse dangerous. Currently, yes. But most likely NOT because there is something pathologically wrong with it. It is because its you are not being able to recognise this and support the horse through this change. Being able to handle them in a way that provides the sense of clarity that allows them to feel they can successfully predict and navigate this new world.

You are lacking the insights and skills to support a horse through this transition.

Instead the horse is stressed, you have got stressed. The horse feels threatened, you feel defensive and threatened and everything has gone pear shaped.

That is the truth. It is not the responsibility of the horse to navigate this themselves. While some are less impacted than others, it is our role in the partnership to understand their needs and how to help them.

Just because the neighbour, vet, your friend or even riding instructor cannot help the horse does not mean the horse cannot be helped. These handful of people are not necessarily experts in handling horses that have become distressed and difficult to handle. Also, the horse is not going to be "fixed" in 5 minutes once it has been stressed for a period of time.

You need to learn 3 things: 1) Insights into horses and their behaviour 2) Skills in how to influence horses both for handling on the ground and in the saddle; and 3) Self awareness of what you might be doing that is contributing to the horse being stressed by your presence and interactions with them!

Each horse that comes into your life is a gift. They reveal gaps in your knowledge, skills and awareness of how you negatively impact horses unconsciously.

You cannot outsource to someone else to fix this problem because your gaps will always be experienced by horses and they will react to them according to their individual tolerance.

But I know what you are thinking now....but Shelley, but my horse IS different....you don't know THIS horse.

I don't know your horse but I do understand horses. I also understand deeply how people negatively impact horses without any clue they are doing so. People can make mistakes with horses while trying their hardest to do the right thing.

I know this as I have been that person. I have wasted years with a horse that I was stressing out only to discover he was the most easy going beautiful horse when I learnt how to not freak him out!

But again...I know what you are thinking...that is not me, its this horse, he has a history and I have been lied too...my neighbour, the vet etc...they all agree...

And that is ok ❤.

If one day you get curious, contact me and let me guide and support you in navigating this situation with your horse. This situation can be turned around ❤

🖤 These two lovely STB geldings Jimmy & Pinky will be started under saddle in the coming weeks. They are showing to be s...
08/06/2022

🖤 These two lovely STB geldings Jimmy & Pinky will be started under saddle in the coming weeks. They are showing to be so gentle and quiet.

I’m not taking EOI on them at this stage.

I absolutely agree 🙌 standardbreds are very trainable and honest.
03/06/2022

I absolutely agree 🙌 standardbreds are very trainable and honest.

Why should you consider a retired Standardbred?

Standardbreds are well known for their kind, soft, gentle temperaments. They are the “go to” breed for nearly every adult riders group and riding schools.

Standardbreds are the breed of choice for most veterinarians for Embryo Transfer programs across Australia and New Zealand due to their sensible, reliable and calm nature.

Transport truck drivers and farriers will be the first to say on pick up ”Oh we love the Standardbreds, they are just so easy to work with”

They are well handled from birth and are generally lightly mouthed and broken around the 12-15 month old mark. Most Standardbreds will race from 2 years old (many factors are considered before this) up until retirement.

In this time, they are highly exposed to many situations, such as the busy race day stalls which are filled with the hustle and bustle of race life and loud race day environments, where they will happily stand and await their race.

They are then transported to several different race tracks during their racing career making them easy to load and unload from your float/truck.

Many race tracks are located in highly populated housing areas which means many horses are driven to and from the track via roads on a daily basis encountering traffic of all descriptions.

They are attended to by the farrier every 4-6 weeks and they also receive regular vet checks and dentistry work making these horses very well handled animals by the time they hit the race track.

Most Standardbred training facilities/race tracks have automatic walking machines for the horses to cool down on, water walkers, aqua Walker, they swim to maintain fitness and let me tell you, they swim very well.

Most larger training facilities will move horses to and from stables/paddocks whilst being led off the quad/gator and sometimes ba****ck, they have been on the treadmill, they have been led from the sulky of another horse.

In my own personal opinion The Standardbred is not dissimilar to a Welsh pony in temperament, I often refer to them as an overgrown Welsh mountain Pony.

They are content to live the life of leisure and be pampered as a companion horse, however they quickly adapt to a plethora of disciplines, Riding for the Disabled, Mounted Police, trail riding, barrel racing, show jumping, endurance, show horses, dressage, Eventing, Camp draft, mustering and many more.

Most importantly Standardbreds are becoming the breed of choice for rehabilitation and disability therapy services across Australia.

Please consider giving a retired Standardbred a loving home in its life after racing.

https://www.harnessrehomingnsw.com/available-horses

😂 why not
27/04/2022

😂 why not

𝓛𝓮𝓼𝓽 𝓦𝓮 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓰𝓮𝓽 🌺
24/04/2022

𝓛𝓮𝓼𝓽 𝓦𝓮 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓰𝓮𝓽 🌺

Wishing everyone a safe & Happy Easter 🐣
16/04/2022

Wishing everyone a safe & Happy Easter 🐣

Let’s talk feeds for a minute. I get asked a lot what do i feed the horses to get them looking amazing? Well i feed simp...
13/04/2022

Let’s talk feeds for a minute. I get asked a lot what do i feed the horses to get them looking amazing? Well i feed simple than add extras to each individual horse. The diets we have the retainers on are slightly different to the diet the performance horses are on.

We currently feed our standardbred retainers beet pulp & copra depending on weight scoring we may increase dry matter amount, add soaked lupins & add lucerne chalf. We try to minimise the amount of bran or mill run products in their feeds. Due to these horses being off the track & in different environments we tend to sand flush, treat for ulcers & i like to use Chill out from equine technology to help with their stress levels until i feel they have settled. This product is amazing works & really well with horses that are over thinking while ridden, stress heads or struggle with separation anxiety. We do highly recommend this product and its one you don’t have to feed for the next 12mths to get results simply use it when needed. We also use a lot of Advanced custom loose lick which has helped the horses a lot due to the lacking minerals in WA’s soils, either put a couple kgs out for the herd or feed 120g per day per horse, you can see the difference within a week. Our performance horses are on the similar diet but we may add hygain showtorque, hygain all care & joint supplements to the mix depending on the horses needs.

Feeding simpler is a lot easier and more efficient in the long run by minimising the gluten feeds also found most horses response really well to the diets and look healthy. Hope this answers some questions for everyone.

Thanks Jess

We have this sweet little registered QH mare coming up for sale at the end of April. Her bloodlines include Shorty’s Oak...
10/04/2022

We have this sweet little registered QH mare coming up for sale at the end of April. Her bloodlines include Shorty’s Oak, Docs Spinifex & Roc’o Lena. She’s super quiet as a 4yo and been out & about. More info will available when she’s ready.

Hi everyone, We have had a lot of interest in the standardbred retrainers coming up, there will be 3 mares & 1 gelding. ...
26/03/2022

Hi everyone,
We have had a lot of interest in the standardbred retrainers coming up, there will be 3 mares & 1 gelding. We will be putting more info & photos up over the next 2-3wks. Please no beginner riders as minimum you need to be able to walk & trot confidently.

UPDATE- we only have 2 mares left.

Thank you for your patience ☺️

10/03/2022

Eddie isn’t allergic to tap water 💧😂

Eddie is one of our young stb retrainers, very friendly & loves playing in water.

🤦‍♀️😂
09/03/2022

🤦‍♀️😂

13/02/2022

Love doing some steady work moving some sheep 😊

This little 5yo mare is available. If you want a best friend that will follow you to the ends of the earth this is her, ...
06/02/2022

This little 5yo mare is available. If you want a best friend that will follow you to the ends of the earth this is her, she’s like a fly just wants to be with you everywhere.
She’s quiet under saddle and has a soft mouth, mainly done miles under saddle riding around the farm. Can pop a little pig root in on the rare occasion so I’m selling to experienced riders only, she’s a heap of fun and will be a great allrounder.
I will be putting a ad up over the next couple days for her. If interested beat the rush & message us ☺️

Located Pingelly WA (Perth 158km, Bunbury 210km)
Can help with transport

Super nice mare $550000 🎉
05/02/2022

Super nice mare $550000 🎉

C**t castrating yesterday, there was no stress or trauma while preforming the procedure, it was done quietly within 30mi...
01/02/2022

C**t castrating yesterday, there was no stress or trauma while preforming the procedure, it was done quietly within 30mins from the moment he was laid down to back on his feet. It’s great to see how the industry has changed over the years.

01/02/2022

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🐴Horse Transport🐴I have two spare bays going down (Perth/ Peel area to Albany/ Bremer Bay) on the 4th/5th Feb. I will po...
26/01/2022

🐴Horse Transport🐴

I have two spare bays going down (Perth/ Peel area to Albany/ Bremer Bay) on the 4th/5th Feb. I will possibly have one spare bay coming back aswell.

Pm for more info and to organise booking.☺️

26/01/2022

💯 Agree on this, as sellers we try to tell you every detail about the horses to our knowledge but as buyers you need to be honest about your capabilities aswell. And especially don’t get upset if we say no as we have the best interest for the horse but also yourself ☺️

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Hi, I am Jess i own & manage JLT Equine PEMF Therapy. Ive been using pemf since 2017 i started out getting treatments for myself for a back issue after a bad horse accident which left me unable to walk for a couple months, after the treatments and regular chiropractor visits i was back on track. I started using PEMF to also help my horses health and performance, which i saw a huge differences in their health from travelling all over the country side, they were recovering quicker after competitions and performing amazing. After getting a couple horses x-rayed to see how their joint were, i found they were sound and healthy. I have been around horses for a long time and understanding how their bodies work is a big factor. I strongly believe PEMF helps the body repair itself and increases health to a optimum level in the body.

I enjoy seeing clients reach the result they are looking for and am very passionate about the horses health.