06/06/2024
🗣️ “What about dogs with actual drive?"
Was a comment made to me yesterday on my remote control car recall video.
My primary response was "can you specify what you mean by 'drive'?"
Driven to do what? What behaviours are you expecting to see?
"Dogs with prey drive", they said.
Apparently, according to their response, show line dogs and 'mongrels' don't qualify. As it happens, Mohawk has some agility lines in him.....but anyway! 😆
Annoyingly, I couldn't respond to their last comment as I appeared to then be blocked by that person. Although, not blocked before having a good snoop at their own content 🤪
I deleted their comments, as a one way contribution doesn’t represent both participants fairly.
So often, in response to contesting the use of aversive tools in dog training we are told to 'show us your work'.
So, I do. Time and time again.
Videos of my dogs (in a group!), recalling away from other dogs, videos of my dogs in wild locations, videos of our clients' successes, videos of a dog having their first sniff of another in years, videos of owners successfully handling their dogs.
All trained without corrrections and aversive tools.
But it's never good enough for some, is it?
It's not a malinois...... so it doesn't count apparently!
"It's not a working breed"
"That dog is not REALLY aggressive".
Why? Because I don't video them being set up to fail and show you them at their worst? Is it not enough that the client is allowing me to publically describe their story?
'Drive' aka Motivation comes in many shapes and forms.
Such as being driven to pummell through undergrowth or engage in high speed ‘hooning' across the coombe, like Amigo, my impulsive, action packed 'mongrel’ who rarely completes a risk assessment prior to action.
A dog who ironically everyone compliments on his 'drive' to engage in training when they meet him and see him in action.
Or stalking and giving eye like my Border Collie, Mohawk, who looks seriously 'on the job' when we play our stalking games together. As it happens, he killed a rabbit two years ago (albeit what appeared to be a sickly one!). But obviously as a ‘show line’ collie ….that’s not REAL prey drive 😆
Or Kanita, my street dog, who is NOT driven to play stupid little training games, but who has a MASSIVE prey drive, including a livestock worrying track record (11 years ago now!).
She still excels at the fox pounce, managing to recently kill a mole (plucked from beneath the ground in a milisecond) at the age of 12!
Furthermore, dogs can be less 'driven' when solitary and more 'driven' to respond to stimulus as a group. Ie, Engaging in territorial behaviour or chasing prey as a group, whilst otherwise ignoring or not overtly responding to the trigger stimulus when on their own.
You can find plenty of videos of my dogs exhibiting 'drive' for a variety of behaviours as individuals and as a group.
Drive is not limited to working line dogs nor dogs who do sports. It is not limited to dogs who are observed in elevated states of arousal, working hard to maintain control over their intense intrinsic motivations until cued otherwise by their handler.
Additionally, if a dog doesn't look excessively driven to you, then it's quite possible that the layers and layers of training historically applied to set that dog up for success and to teach them self- control and self- regulation is what is at play.
Whilst it's undeniable that there is a variation in the level and intensity of ‘drive’ between breeds and lines, there is also variation at an individual level. You can get show line dogs with high drive for some behaviours and working line dogs who will favour the sofa over a job.
Please reconsider downplaying the efforts and achievements of others. If you wish to offer critique, I personally feel the fair thing to do is to have a good delve into the backstory of whom or what you are critiquing before taking to the keyboard.
If your criteria for dog training skill or success is to observe the presence or application of aversive tools, then at the very least recognise that this has nothing to do with so called ‘drive’ or levels of ‘aggression’, and has everything to do with your confirmation bias.