Hestia : Lost and Found

Hestia : Lost and Found Lost and Found is a log of the rehabilitation of a rescue dog who was missing for half a year and di

Decided to take a chance and proof the dogs peacefully ignoring each other *as a trained default behavior* unless prompt...
07/31/2021

Decided to take a chance and proof the dogs peacefully ignoring each other *as a trained default behavior* unless prompted with “go say hi”. Then to reduce the barriers in the crate and rotate system. Muzzles are imperative, of course! But it’s making a kind of baby gate / normal puppy introduction system peaceful and workable, and I’m really happy with it even though I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone else until I can get more experience with it.

Pic is old, edited from Muzzle Training and Tips fit check.

07/30/2021

My goal is to rework the management system so that there’s more, effectively, consent in the practice. I don’t know how to describe it in detail but the biggest issue with the management system as it is is their sheer determination to get to me. They don’t care about the other dog. They care about where I am and conflict results from that. Hestia is actually reasonably level-headed now.

But like.. There is nothing more reinforcing for either of them than being with me. It’s exhausting. I guess the ideal is to pour more freedom and enrichment into the system while they’re away from me and hope that decreases their desire to get away, but I’m not convinced it will work.

Neither of them do this if I’m not spending time with either dog. So it isn’t separation anxiety.

If I just had the funds for more equipment it would be easier both to manage them and do setups but that isn’t a possibility yet.

07/30/2021

Management failure: Toro both broke a tether carabiner and broke out of the building she was in in order to approach Hestia and I. Toro was .. if not angry then she had her lip curled. Hestia very calmly - by which I mean tense but understated - came out from behind me and put her body between Toro and I, but never touched Toro and never appeared frantic or out-of-sorts. Toro *was* frantic, in a way; she very badly wanted Hestia to go away. Each dog being with me predicts the other dog not being able to be with me, since they can’t spend time together. Toro was uncomfortable with being interrupted and directed by me, and definitely not “calm”, but also let me manage the situation and dropped the curled lip the moment I touched her collar.

Squinty-eyed, bored relaxation in the presence of a cat! Getting there!
07/29/2021

Squinty-eyed, bored relaxation in the presence of a cat! Getting there!

07/29/2021

Malinois are such a miracle. Both dogs are offleash-proofed now, but Hestia gave it to me basically for free. I don’t think of Toro as Pyreneeslike at all but I did actually feel like I was *training* her, while Hestia is so instantly responsive that it feels like takes no work.

One effect of this is that she’s really easy to enforce behavior-based management protocols on.

She is now ecollar-conditioned, but only for emergency and emergency-preventing use - she is actually less sensitive to it than Toro, ‘emotionally’, which stunned me. She takes input from it like a cue or attention noise, whereas for Toro it’s always a correction. They were conditioned in exactly the same way.

Hestia is livestock-proofed and safe around fast-moving small and large animals off leash in the yard: she shows no interest and doesn’t really look at them. This is my highest standard and I’m proud of us.

We’re working on bringing that attitude to cats, which are her biggest nightmare distraction. She doesn’t chase them ( because of training ), but she has predatory interest. She’s in a set-up with roommate’s cats right now: on a tie-down, muzzled, and with the ecollar and leash on as backup.

For prey drive training, I use desensitization primarily, so it’s more about time under threshold than anything else. You could think of that as ‘setting expectations’, too: she’s not only calmly watching the cats, she’s calmly watching them interact with me as friends.

But for safety reasons, I do want the lack of predatory or high-arousal behavior proofed with the ecollar. Right now I’m very comfortable with her and the stim: Moreso than I am with correcting Toro, and Toro is pretty optimistic and ‘hard’.

And of course, you NEVER EVER use a correction for negative valence emotion lunges, i.e. the aggression spectrum, growling, and barking. Prey drive is very different!

07/22/2021

Low update volume because I’m psychologically struggling, but I’m at this point comfortable with Hestia’s RG, her lack of reactivity, our management systems, and her muzzle to the degree that I’m willing to begin RG setups and to start at-home-only offleash training.

Initial RG setups will be very basic things with Toro behind a window and me proofing cues for Hestia like ‘go to place’ and a sendaway, which I’d like to be similar to a “drop it” cue in toy/food guarding treatment.

Initial offleash training will be solely within the fenced portion of the property, then progress into the unfenced but still remote portion of the property. Behind the fence we will continue to proof optimistic, neutral disinterest in vehicles, dogs, livestock, and people.

Toro is doing sport & conservation dog training; I’m working to balance the amount of time each of them get equally even though only one is an “”emergency””. So Toro gets to do extra fun things - and simultaneously isn’t pushed as hard or pushed to “like everything”, one of my failures as a handler, because I have a Malinois who will train with me once Toro is satisfied for the day.

I’m beginning to read a lot of more experimental studies on treating behavior problems in dogs and really excited about some of the possibilities - although a lot are hard to stomach and are functionally critical of the handler’s relationship with or behavior towards the dog as a factor. I love the potential as a behaviorist, but I also really don’t know if I can help people with that without hurting their feelings - I don’t know if I can pull it off with the customer service skill level I’m at now. But I’d like to get there.

07/21/2021

Here is the Wikipedia article on compulsive canine self-harm, if anyone is interested.

There is a mildly graphic photo at the top of the page.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lick_granuloma

Hestia has a better prognosis than most by far: she’s in refeeding ( so a ‘dietary adjustment’ - adjusted from past starvation ), she just started medication which will continue to trickle into her system and be eased to a higher dose over time, she’s being given more exercise and novelty and stimulation now that she’s both muzzle-trained and functionally nonreactive, and after her PennHip her activity and sports levels will be increased even more.

In addition to that she’s on antibiotics, ointments to counteract various parts of the granuloma, and I’m experimenting with ways to possibly reduce stress that I haven’t seen other trainers usually explore. ( E.g. The ‘take a breath’ exercises in Control Unleashed. )

07/21/2021

So the end of this story is that roommate got a loan from someone else in order to pay me back the Gofundme money he lost in order to help me pay the bill.

So everything is okay. Ideally by the end of next month I’ll have actually launched my business and Hestia’s medical costs will be comparatively easy to handle.

07/20/2021

On medication Hestia is ( or acts ) dog-neutral, human-social, and neutral and nonreactive to all other stimuli.

The vet’s office has given me a short grace period to find a way to pay them before they call the police.

07/20/2021

Trapped in the waiting room of the vet clinic because all my cards have been shut down from overdrafting from veterinary bills. I’m informally in debt by hundreds of dollars to all my closest friends, also from veterinary bills. I can’t take anything into my account because it will pay back the overdraft fee but not help with the bill.

Currently begging the wealthiest person I know for a loan for the first time.

07/20/2021

We’re in the parking lot and my roommate is feeding Hestia bits of various groceries from his mouth because he wants to countercondition her into being more comfortable with looking at people’s faces. It’s really cute.

07/20/2021

Roommate lost the money from the GoFundMe through no fault of his own ( we’re both well into the negatives, me from the costs of caring for Hestia ); he’ll pay me back, but for this reason, the Gofundme is being permanently closed.

The page will remain open because I intend to shape it into an independent project documenting her care.

Hestia, overnight, progressed from compulsive licking to real self-mutilation and chewed a hole into her side and we’re on the way to the ER right now. I’ll have to talk to the vet about exactly why and whether it’s medication-related, but I had a rough night emotionally which disrupted the normal schedule - she slept away from me while I was awake when normally last night was her night, because the dogs alternate who gets to be in my bed - and it’s possible that’s related.

With the vet’s clearance and her reactivity having decreased drastically on her new meds, Hestia and I hiked for her 2K-...
07/19/2021

With the vet’s clearance and her reactivity having decreased drastically on her new meds, Hestia and I hiked for her 2K-9 today. She saw construction work for the first time, which she had no special reaction to, and a piece of roadkill, which she had a fear response to. I let her investigate for as long as she liked and then choose whether she wanted to continue on the trail, and she circled it for a long time and then did.

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07/19/2021

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Recall practice. Yes, the long line is draped over her shoulders like a cape. 🤦‍♂️ When I first picked her up she was ut...
07/18/2021

Recall practice. Yes, the long line is draped over her shoulders like a cape. 🤦‍♂️ When I first picked her up she was utterly, entirely shut-down terrified of cattle so I’m really glad she’s mildly interested in and enthusiastic about them, but my ideal is neutral disinterest, so we’re practicing ignoring and turning away from interesting animals.

I feel I’ve hit the limits of C-BARQ; while I’ll continue to use it, I’m bringing another temperament evaluation tool in...
07/17/2021

I feel I’ve hit the limits of C-BARQ; while I’ll continue to use it, I’m bringing another temperament evaluation tool in for the future. That said, here’s Hestia’s C-BARQ riiiight before she’s started on Trazadone.

The vet said her body condition score is up to a 2 from a 1 or a borderline 1-2, and that if I continue feeding her as I have she’ll be up to a 3 by next month and will continue to gain until she’s a 4 - which is the lowest healthy score.

Now that her weight is less scary she’s started on her long-term doses of parasite preventatives alongside Trazadone at 100mg, which is a pretty normal starting dose. She’ll be on this dose until her appointment with a behavior vet in Oregon.

The vet said she was the best-cared for dog he’d seen all day and that she’s the healthiest of the patients seen “urgently”. She’s clear of everything and all her bloodwork is now within normal limits. He’s a sweetheart, so he slashed the price down to 400 dollars - test costs only, rather than all the normal appointment, exam, and handling fees.

07/14/2021

Today’s dog feelings come from Ask Polly ( Heather Havrilesky )’s parenting advice:

“There comes a time in every parent’s life when they have to set aside their perfectionism, idealism, and masochism, frankly, and they have to look themselves in the mirror and ask one question:

Am I really cut out for this?

The question is not Am I cut out to be a parent? The question is Am I built to do this alone for this many hours straight?

The question is not Am I failing, every single day, to live up to my (impossible, unforgiving, punitive) ideals? The question is not Am I the worst mom alive? Or Am I the biggest failure as a wage earner and as a dad! And the question is most definitely not If I quit staying at home with my kids and got more help, would I judge myself badly and would our (perfection-focused, sexist, masochistic) culture judge me badly, too?

The question is CAN I REALLY DO THIS? Am I a person who loves to do the same repetitive things with a two year-old for eight hours straight, every day? Am I patient enough for this? Do I like running around in circles over and over? Do I enjoy putting my creative projects to the side every few minutes and never receiving recognition for my work and being condescended to by everyone alive, and will I continue to enjoy these things for decades to come and then will I look back after all that time and say, IT WAS ALL WORTH IT FOR SURE BECAUSE I WAS ABSOLUTELY CUT OUT FOR BEING A STAY-AT-HOME, AROUND THE CLOCK PARENT, I WAS FU***NG GREAT AT IT, AND I’M PROUD OF MYSELF!

Today is the day for you to try something new. Kids under 12 obviously aren’t vaccinated yet, so you might not want to go to daycare yet. I respect that, and I also respect wanting kids in school. But if you don’t choose daycare, you should rework your budget and figure out a way to get a part-time or close to full-time nanny.

It will be expensive and you will feel guilty when you’re working. But the nanny is not FOR YOU. The nanny is for the family. The nanny saves your husband from being married to someone who slowly starts to resent him. The nanny saves your child from seeing his mother at her worst for eight to twelve hours a day because she’s just DONE. The nanny saves your brain from screaming at you YOU ARE BAD AT THIS, YOU ARE A FAILURE, YOU CAN’T DO ANYTHING RIGHT, YOU ARE FU***NG EVERYTHING UP.

You will choose a nanny who’s cut out for spending all day with a two-year-old. You’ll pay her a living wage and treat her with respect and care. You’ll relish how good she is at what she does. And then you’ll leave the house, and go somewhere close by to work, somewhere small and stupid that you still can’t quite afford. Or you’ll go to a coffee place. Or you’ll go to a friend’s house who works during the day. And you will do your work. And while you work you’ll say, This is the work I’m cut out for. I just need to be patient with myself and keep believing.

Does having a nanny or sending your kids to daycare or preschool make you an as***le? F**k no. It makes you a regular human being with a job you love and a family you love. Many humans live this way. Does staying at home with kids make you a chump? F**k no. It makes you a regular human being who’s making their own choices about how to live, full stop.

My kids had a nanny and then they went to daycare. We were living in LA and it was horrendously expensive. One might argue that we could not actually afford it, since we sank into debt and I started waking up in the middle of the night just to add and subtract numbers. But we slowly got through it.

I was absolutely, positively NOT cut out to be there all the time. My kids spent their daytime hours during the week with paid professionals who were far more patient and calm than I am. And then my kids came home and spent every other hour of their lives with me and my husband.

You will feel sh*tty when your drop your kid off at preschool. That’s just how it is, for everyone. He will have a great day even if he’s crying and hugging your legs and begging you not to leave.

You are not a limited liability corporation, you’re a family. Everyone lifts everyone else up and helps them to be the best, happiest human being they can be. Everyone believes in each other. Everyone makes small sacrifices to keep each other happy.

If you don’t make big changes now, you’ll still probably want more kids (that’s not wrong or bad, either, it’s fine and natural). And your career and your identity and your emotional well-being will bear the weight of this problem, and it will be very hard and also not that fair.

But if you do stand up for what you need – time and space to work without panicking – you’ll be setting up a sustainable, loving, mutually supportive environment where you and your husband and son and future children can actually thrive. They will learn that people work together to serve each other. Everyone is equally respected. Everyone gets a chance to thrive.”

- Ask Polly on Substack

( excerpted )

At the end of 2020 Hestia was lost. Six months later and 1,500 miles away, she was found again.She was found starving, m...
07/11/2021

At the end of 2020 Hestia was lost. Six months later and 1,500 miles away, she was found again.

She was found starving, malnourished, and with brittle, matted fur, bald patches, and scars. She had separation anxiety, reactivity, and resource guarding in addition to the prior neophobia and generalized anxiety caused by spending most of her puppyhood in a crate before being placed in rescue.

On the first day after I flew out to meet her, after greeting me by tackling me and licking my face, Hestia resource-guarded me from another dog, redirected onto me, and bit me. It was a grade four bite.

This page is intended to honestly and straightforwardly document the process of living with, being safe around, rehabilitating and choosing the future of a rescue dog with a high-grade bite history. I am a behavior specialist with background in aggression and veterinary medicine. I will be following her with a veterinary behaviorist and an experienced aggression specialist.

No matter what happens to her, I will be with Hestia for the rest of her life.

DONATE TO THE COST OF REHABILITATION: https://www.gofundme.com/f/rescue-dog-lost-for-1-year-goes-home

HESTIA’S INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/hest.ia_

07/10/2021

Me: Everything is bad everything is bad everything is bad-

Leerburg: Your package has arrived!

Me: OH

07/10/2021

Hard to explain but I feel like a great deal of “enriching” or “ideal” or “unideal” situations are .. very very different depending on 1) the amount of time they spend there, and 2) the way the rest of their life looks.

Visiting a friend for a day is really lovely and enriching for Toro and something I’d like all my dogs to get to do more often ( Hestia exempt ). Being stuck visiting a friend most of the time is distressing.

Being on a tie-out for some of the day is exciting. Being on a tie-out for lots of the day is boring and frustrating.

Being in a crate is necessary quiet time and decompression for some dogs, but actively draining or anxiety-inducing for others.

The places I can have the dogs don’t matter as much as the way I have them there.

07/09/2021

I have the crate and rotate schedule resettled but chriiiiist muzzles save lives and I love and yearn for them. I’m working with the garbage muzzle for now. Same with the vet appointments: They cannot come fast enough.

07/09/2021

Hestia containment problems:

-Breaks tethers and tie-outs.

-In addition to having intermittent severe crate distress, very good at unlatching them. Can bend and possibly eventually break bars on the wire ones, is definitely going to injure herself doing this if left to it.

-Alarmingly good at breaking or slipping collars.

-Pushes open or unlatches windows; if this fails, unlatches or forces open doors; if this fails, tears apart and breaks the wood.

-Systematically destroys wood-and-wire kennels and runs.

-Capable of physically dragging multiple people attempting to restrain her unless properly emergency-only-restrained and choked.

-Can’t be left with another handler because she’s a dangerous dog.

If she actually gets out she just wants to be at my side, so she’s not at risk of “escaping”, but she’s also a really unsafe dog. She’s currently following me around on-leash ( not that she can’t break .. both collars and leashes, if she wants to ).

It’s severely affecting Toro’s quality of life - not fear or injury, but the fact that Hestia can’t effectively be contained, so crate and rotate has stalled. Toro is rotating between containment systems for her own safety and often visiting friends - Toro loves them but visibly misses me.

Her muzzle is still in the mail. A real ( martingale ) collar is also in the mail and it would be prudent to buy extra collar options. I’m unsure of what else I can do - still looking into it.

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07/09/2021

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07/09/2021

Management failure: Hestia snapped the steel tie-out cable in a way I’m .. not really convinced is mathematically possible and will take pictures of when it’s light out.

Management success: Oriented to me and was coming towards me immediately anyways, ignoring Toro; recalled and sat and came with me to the nearest leash on cue.

Panic attack of the day!

C-BARQs: 2 weeks apart. I have literally never worked this intensively with a dog before.The change is pretty dramatic, ...
07/06/2021

C-BARQs: 2 weeks apart. I have literally never worked this intensively with a dog before.

The change is pretty dramatic, and I don’t expect her behavior to ever change this dramatically again. The amount of *lifestyle* changes she’s been through in the last week alone are enormous, and I’ve literally been spending almost all day every day working on her fear or my own skills in helping her.

In general: Management has been put fiercely into place, meaning she’s put over threshold far less often. She’s settled in beyond the three day mark. She’s home now, and spends most of her day in her favorite places. She’s clean and no longer covered in mats. She’s receiving exercise and enrichment and bonding. She’s being fed as much as she will eat of an appropriate diet as well as supplements to help her along. She’s insured and waiting for appointment for meds.

In specifics:

The stranger-directed aggression is likely decreased overall fear in combination with reactivity work - impacting strangers’ and animals’ behavior is self-reinforcing for her and I’ve been interrupting and reinforcing alternative behavior.

The dog-directed fear surprised me: She’s gone from terrified and reactive to other dogs to more typical Malinois forward self-reinforcing reactivity. Her threshold for reactivity of all kinds has improved, and reactivity is an area of focus.

Familiar dog aggression is management and routine-based. After she settled in, she and Toro can cohabit well between distances and barriers without hostility.

Chasing surprised me. She’s still as intent on cats as possible but no longer lunges at livestock or other animals. Some of this was livestock training, some of it was interruption and CC/DS, some of it was reinforcement of alternative behaviors, but still.. prey drive doesn’t typically go away and I didn’t focus on changing it. I’m fascinated and puzzled. It’s possible lack of hunger and expressing drive through play have impacted this too.

Stranger-directed fear and nonsocial fear have gone down now that she’s no longer in crisis, but her GENERALIZED ANXIETY is still really high and meds are very obviously necessary. In other words, while she is still fearful, it isn’t triggered by specific stimuli.

Separation anxiety was intensively worked on. She goes through separations on a strict and rhythmic schedule, during large portions of the day, and starting & stopping interactions with her is now highly ritualized. I’m proud of the change here; it was very much intentional. I’m hoping that in the future she can be eased into a stable but less ritualized lifestyle.

Touch sensitivity went down dramatically after all the mats were removed. It was also very intensely worked on through the week: counterconditioning and routine and ritual and cooperative care and start button behaviors. She’s now enthusiastic about grooming and easy to work with, and I’ve been introduced to new grooming products and methods.

Excitability and energy I attribute to appropriate exercise and stimulation.

Attachment, which is also tied up in resource guarding, is unchanged. I need the behaviorist to help the most with that.

“Children’s attachment style and separation anxiety is associated with the parents’ caregiving behaviour. In order for t...
07/06/2021

“Children’s attachment style and separation anxiety is associated with the parents’ caregiving behaviour. In order for the child to feel trust and to be sure that the mother is available to them, the mother (parent) needs to be sensitive and responsive to the child’s needs (e.g. responsive to the infants' cries, sensitive in initiating and terminating feeding, etc.). Maternal responsiveness/sensitivity is the primary predictor of a child’s secure attachment (Crockenberg, 1981; Leerkes, 2011; Meins et al., 2001) and separation anxiety (Dallaire and Weinraub, 2005).

The owners’ caregiving behaviour may similarly contribute to the development of insecure attachment and SRD in dogs. The owners’ personality, dog-directed behaviour and attitude to their dog have been shown to contribute to a variety of behavioural problems (Bennett and Rohlf, 2007; Dodman et al., 2018; Hunt et al., 2012; O’Farrell, 1997; Podberscek and Serpell, 1997), including separation related problems. Recently, the owner’s leniency (which entails inconsistency in caregiving behaviour) was found to be associated with dogs’ separation behaviour (especially vocal behaviour) (Lenkei et al., 2018). Solomon et al. (2018) also found that dogs classified as secure had reassuring-sensitive owners in a threatening context in contrast with insecure dogs.

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Our study supports the theory that owners’ attachment and caregiving style might affect the dogs’ attachment style and SRD status.”

V. Konok, A. Marx, T. Faragó,
Attachment styles in dogs and their relationship with separation-related disorder – A questionnaire based clustering,
Applied Animal Behaviour Science,
Volume 213,
2019,
Pages 81-90,
ISSN 0168-1591,
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.applanim.2019.02.014.
(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168159118304921)

Separation related disorder (SRD) is a common behavioural problem in dogs, characterised by severe physiological and behavioural signs which occur dur…

Blep.
07/06/2021

Blep.

07/06/2021

Started to condition odor for the dogs in Nosework. Toro loved it. Hestia loved the odor so much she disdained the grilled chicken so the session came to a screeching halt.

07/05/2021

As of today she’s enthusiastic about grooming and doesn’t ask for breaks - diligence about consent and intensive counterconditioning are noticeably decreasing the touch sensitivity. Detangler should be here tomorrow and then life will be So Much Better.

scratch scratch scratch
07/05/2021

scratch scratch scratch

Treat bowl for malnourished Tervueren. Base is nutritionally complete wet food, additions are all dogsafe, and her norma...
07/05/2021

Treat bowl for malnourished Tervueren. Base is nutritionally complete wet food, additions are all dogsafe, and her normal diet is nutritionally-complete high-quality kibble.

07/04/2021

New breed diagnoses for Hestia: “fox”, “maned wolf”

07/04/2021

Contacted by my first scammer about Hestia today. 😓

07/04/2021

We are soooo excited to officially share our handout on the Stages of Training. Thank you Doggie Drawings by Lili Chin for bringing this to life! This handout is used for clients to follow their dog's training progress!
It goes through all the stages of learning:
1. Acquisition (get the behavior)
2. Fluency (add the cue)
3. Generalization (proof the behavior)
4. Maintenance (maintain the behavior)

Edit to clarify:
1. This is FREE for you to use/make copies of for clients, but not the edit.
2. “As taught by Jean Donaldson” refers to Push, Stick, Drop

Thanks for all the support! 🐾💙🐾

07/03/2021

“This article is for the beginner because there seems to be enough beginners getting Bulldogs these days to merit the article. Some newcomers do not know how to separate their dogs when accidents happen. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who has one or more Bulldogs, must surely expect some accidents. I've been involved with Pit Bulls since the mid seventies. I just spent around four hundred dollars in vet bills when my dog got loose despite my precautions. Even today there are some people who will try and break up a dog fight by hitting the dogs with a 2x4 or trying to pull the dogs apart or even throwing scalding water on them. All these people do is harm the dogs. The proper way to separate a pit bull from another dog - be it another pit or a cur dog, is by using a breaking (sometimes called a parting) stick. A breaking stick is easy to make. You can taper the end of a hardwood hammer by spoke shaving it down. The stick should be approximately one foot long and tapered - not to a thin point (then it would break easily) - but so that the tip can be inserted in the dog's mouth. A lot of people customize their sticks. I have some that are custom carved with just the right taper and angle. But they are not necessary. Some law enforcement agencies consider a breaking stick evidence of dog fighting, which is unfortunate because every kennel, show kennels included, need them.

A lot of newcomers have breaking sticks but don't know how to properly use them. Most people who obtain a breaking stick because they know they need one, are not shown how to use it, and have some misconceptions of a breaking stick. They try to pry the dog's mouth off. Wrong. Generally that can't be done and sometimes they end up breaking or yanking out a tooth.

To break a pit bull off with a breaking stick straddle the dog so he can't maneuver away and inset the stick in the dog's mouth just behind the canine teeth. This is an area where the stick should slide in naturally. Exert steady pressure inward - do not shove it in. Sometimes you can work it in a bit , but work it, don't pry. To work it do not exert pressure up - exert pressure down on the lower jaw (weak because of jaw hinge). You can work the stick a little side to side - but carefully, you don't want pop a tooth. Above all don't pry up and down hard. Also grab the loose skin at the scruff of his neck. The dog will feel an obstruction and sooner or later he will try and adjust his bite to get a better bite. You must be ready. In that moment when you feel him give a little lunge (to adjust his bite) immediately pull up with the hold you have on his neck. Leave the stick in his mouth until you are clear. You are using leverage. Lifting up on his neck you take away his power and you need less strength to handle the dog. As you pull up and to the side on his head, spin away as you reach under the dog with the other arm and support his body underneath. By facing the dog away you divert his attention and the dog is more controllable. Also the other dog will be easier to catch if you have help or run away if it is a cur dog. The biggest key to it all however - is patience - and to be calm. When you insert your breaking stick, your Bulldog will probably not release right away. You must wait. If the other dog is a cur dog and screaming - the dog is hollering mostly out of fear. Unless the dog is very small, it is hard to kill a dog right away. Look at it this way - ask a vet how many dogs get run over by cars - really shipwrecked - and they live. What would definitely kill a human, they survive. Dogs are pretty hardy critters. Left alone, I realize, the pit bull would kill the cur dog. But unless he has a deep bite on the throat of a small dog or if he is into the stomach (rare) - that cur dog will probably not be killed by his one hold while you are breaking him off. Do not be intimidated by the screams of the cur dog, afraid you'll be sued, etc. Take your time, you'll save the dog alot quicker that way. If your Bulldog is on a cur dog, now, there are some considerations to keep in mind. One is the cur dog, once loose, may bite you out of fear. In many cases the dog is in a state of panic and will snap at anything close. So be fast when you do handle. Quick "pick up" and "get out" of Dallas. Now - when you turn away like that, a real aggressive cur dog may attack you! But if it comes down to that, I say that's too much, turn your Bulldog back on him. It would be real rare for that to happen, generally the cur dog is going to head for the hills. If the cur dog's owner is there of course you want him to handle his dog. Most of these people will panic, afraid their dog is getting killed. You must speak with a calm, but firm voice. Let them know their dog will be okay if they cooperate. Repeat what you say because people in a state of fear don't hear.

The best thing to do of course is to avoid accidents in the first place. The most common accident happens when a dog slips his collar or breaks his hookup and gets loose. I do not hook my dogs to the ring on the collar, even a heavy duty one. Had too many sad experiences. Given time these dogs wear out anything. What I have is two "O" rings and I put his collar through them. If one were to break (and Morochito, his daughter Velvet and her son Victory have broken "O" rings), the other one backs it up.

When a pit bull gets loose on a yard (the most common incident) and runs into another pit on a chain, it is best if you have someone to help with the other dog, of course. Sooner or later, however, you'll probably have to separate two dogs yourself. To do this, pull back the dog that is loose until the dog on the chain is at the very end of the chain. Use your breaking stick to break off the loose dog, and hold him back as you wait. Keep the stick in his mouth so he can't get another hold, if you can. Wait for the dog on the chain to shift holds (this can take quite awhile - again, you must be patient). But you must also be ready to move instantly. As soon as the chained dog shifts holds, turn quickly away with the loose dog.

Even if the damage to your dog(s) is minimal as a result of a kennel or street accident, always thoroughly cleanse and medicate the wounds. I learned the hard way. Too many times, for minor wounds, I put my dog back on the chain with no medication and he healed fine. But it only took once - minor wounds on his neck area hear his collar - I just put him back on his chain. I had to go out of town and when I came back I was very, very busy. I had forgotten about the minor wounds and I didn't pay sufficient attention to them. I hate to admit it - most dogmen wouldn't - but it happened. A week later I noticed infection had set in - he had a bad skin reaction to what was very minor. It ended up costing $400 to clear it up. I never did that again. Anyway, always keep your breaking stick - best to have several located in convenient, relevant places - where you can get to them immediately. If you get awakened in the midle of the night and a dog got loose, you must be able to quickly put your hand on the breaking stick. Never take your dog for a walk without a breaking stick. Even if you have a pet that has never acted aggressively at all toward other dogs, have a breaking stick available any time that dog is not confined or not on his chain. For those it may benefit, I hope I've helped in the proper use of a breaking stick.”

— The Proper Use of a Breaking Stick

By Bob Stevens - Reprinted

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