01/03/2025
We are kicking off our 2025 Rider Line Series with a bang 💥‼️
For this week we have Mongol Derby Rider Lucy Joel!
Lucy met both Solange Ellis and Cain from Martial Equestrian at a clinic hosted by Stevie at Intergalactic Equine in Oregon back in the early summer of 2023.
She then went on to have a successful derby run and was lucky enough to get fabulous photos and videos of her flying across the steppe on this fabulous horse 😍
Lucy said that the lower leg position that she learned at the clinic helper her immensely at the derby and she was interested to see Solange’s take on her over all riding position via Rider Lines.
Photo/video credit goes to Kathy Gabriel and Erik Cooper 😎
Let’s dig in! 👏
First off, I want to point out some of the hyper specific details that affect the Mongol Derby Riders.
1. The riders are all provided with the same race saddle. A few years back I bought one which, is in my tack room for all the riders to practice in when they come for intensives. I also to ride in myself when I create bespoke riding positions for the Mongol Derby Riders who train here. It is a small seat and a seat shape that you do not encounter often. It is a better Light Seat saddle than Deep Seat saddle.
2. The Mongol Ponies are…ponies. So they have small compact bodies with shorter necks and lower head carriages. Mongol Derby riders have to balance having their stirrups short enough to fit the size of the ponies but also long enough to be comfortable when riding multiple hours a day for up to ten days in a row.
The Semi-feral nature of the ponies prevents the riders from adjusting their stirrups mid ride!
The lowest green line shows that Lucy took the toe out heel down instruction from both Solange and Cain seriously 🙂
Her foot position is correct, this gave her the stable base that she experienced when the ponies suddenly moved out from beneath her ✅
The yellow line shows her lower leg bones slightly behind the vertical, this could be for two reasons.
1. The angle the photo is taken at, this is a screenshot of a video of her hand galloping along taken from a moving car 🙂
2. The yellow arc is showing her knee angle which is a little closed, this may be because her stirrups were a hole shorter than they should be. As stated above, riders struggle with that stirrup length balance on the derby, she reported being stable so the data says that her stirrup choice was correct for the hyper specific environment of the derby. At home, I would drop her stirrups a hole. That would open her knee angle a few degrees and allow her leg to travel forward onto the vertical line to the ground in a deep seat sitting canter ( the position she is in here ).
The green line on her helmet shows her head is in the correct place with her chin level and parallel to the ground ✅
The Red lines show that her hand position is slightly too far in front of her. This hand position is causing her shoulder to round forward and her to collapse her torso position at her solar plexus 🚫
What this means, is that her weight will not land fully in her seat bones in her sitting canter as well as limit the range of motion in her pelvis. Causing her to lose connection with the saddle for a portion of each of her horses’s canter stride.
Again, in the specific environment of the derby riders ride the long distances with a backpack with their water supply in it. I am always concerned that the fatigue from the race mixed with the unusual occurrence of having weight on the riders back will cause them to lose shoulder structure, and that might be happening here in this screen shot.
Here is how I recommend riders find their individual hand position that is based on their individual arm length…
While in a deep seat sitting position : lift your rib cage and lean back from your waist until you feel your two seat bones in the saddle. Then widen your shoulder out from left to right. Next set your hand in-front of you below your belly button. Your elbows will be just un from of the side line seam of your shirt. Most likely your hand will be closer to your body than you think. If you straighten your elbow joint and let your forearm drop straight down, the bottom of your hand while holding reins will touch the front of your saddle ✅
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