This is the first time Iāve been able to touch Brandiās hind foot with my hand. As always, some notes:
āŖļø Built-in pauses - looks like Iām feeding for nothing, but Iām reinforcing a pause, and then Iām pausing at shoulder and hip as a check-in to see if going forward is a good idea or not. Also emphasizes the difference between cuing for a foot lift, and *not* cuing (I donāt want her to lift her feet willy-nilly if Iām just standing and not asking).
āŖļø I was going to click for my hand touching her hoof. Iāve never gotten to this point before, so at first she lifts her foot and puts it right back down, just like sheās learned. So, I ask again with fingers at the chestnut (my cue to lift a foot), and this time Iām able to slide my hand down and catch her foot and actually hold it. If it didnāt work this way (which it doesnāt quite for the right hind just yet), I can click for just the touch of my hand to her hoof and not try to hold, and build from there.
āŖļø Sheās still not 1000% relaxed in her body. Thatās always the goal, and sheās SO MUCH better than she started, but itās not there yet. Short sessions, high rate of reinforcement, small, logical steps, and alternating between different tasks is whatās been most effective for getting us to this point, and that will only continue to work for us going forward.
Also pretty proud of myself for figuring out how to click with a cough drop in my mouth. Harder than it sounds! š
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Some (scattered) thoughts on a recent moment with Foolār:
Weād just taken a break and he was eating across the arena, so I went to the mounting block to see what heād do. I figured heād wander over, but I didnāt expect the trot.
āŖļø Itās a good sign that the work weāve done is okay and he knows what Iām going to ask next, but itās not the whole picture.
āŖļø Hereās where it can go poorly - this looks like enthusiastic participation, and for this part it is, but it was trained, so itās not a guarantee that heās 100% all in, it just means itās worth the trade for timothy pellets. Thatās not terrible.
āŖļø I still have to be careful to back off when heās no longer leading with yes, and it doesnāt mean he wonāt change his mind. (He did on this day after a short ride, but he doesnāt always).
āŖļø This is important because weāre still in the foundation phase with riding in particular, where many small wins are necessary now for some larger leaps forward later.
āŖļø Once a horse has got the game, you have a lot more latitude in the affordances you have and the environment and antecedents you can take advantage of. In doing that, you have opportunity to try to develop more intrinsic motivation for the game itself, and less so for the food. This is where it gets fun, and where weāre at right now on the ground. More and more this is where Iām taking a closer look at my training and looking for ways to find ways to let the horse lead as well as find the right balance of challenge to ability, hopefully employing more intrinsic motivation.
āŖļø But we have to make sure the ground is solid enough first, and one of the clearest ways I can do that is with R+ (though, as always, other things are always happening).
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Continued from the last post about using barrels for bending:
ā”ļø Siri has more experience than Fi, and you can see the difference between them. Fi has been more heavily reinforced for trotting, so thatās what she tries harder at. Iām not going to turn down the opportunity for her to get some exercise! And you can see some of the intermediate training steps I did with her to not squash the forward, and just add a little sideways here and there. She gets stuck at one point, so I just work on the hand target piece for a few seconds, and then try again.
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Some notes on using what you have to develop skills youād like to have, such as lateral work on the ground (Fi is in the next post because FB canāt upload two videos to one post š):
ā”ļø I donāt have a reverse round pen or anywhere convenient to put one, and barrels are always in the arena, so I may as well use them.
ā”ļø First get the pattern of the barrel between horse and handler. You can add a target for bend, and then extend the bend after the barrel.
ā”ļø What the bend looks like in the beginning doesnāt matter. Itās more about letting the horse organize themselves to move both forward and somehow sideways. If the hind end moves sideways too, then thatās the horseās solution!
ā”ļø If you need to be more specific about exactly how much bend and on what line, you can always microshape. However, Iād caution against it as it doesnāt allow the horse to move in a way that makes sense to their own body.
ā”ļø The barrel helps infer the idea of the bend. For some horses that have a hard time moving with a handler, the barrels can be a sort of protective contact. This pattern can be carried over into ridden work, too.
And yeah, sheās muddy. š¤·āāļøš
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Majestic pony in flight, slightly rainy edition. Not at all awkward.
A short update, working towards lifting back feet with hands rather than the pool noodle.
- Camera angle is wonky because I just leaned my phone up against something and couldnāt see the screen from the glare. š¤·āāļø
- This is toward the end of the session, so she starts to throw behaviors she knows - lifting legs - when sheās getting to her limit of attention span.
- Using hay as the reinforcer, and itās also not on me, itās separate and I have to go get it after the click, helping develop a little bit of patience on her part.
- I start at her shoulder, pause, move to her hip, pause again. I want the cue to be my hand touching her chestnut and not me touching her hip, so I pause to make that more clear.
- Still working on the mechanics of the hind legs, so I wait and donāt reinforce when she does more than Iād like, and then she tries something different that has worked before.
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There are myriad reasons a horse has trouble being comfortable and cooperative, generally originating from physical, mental, and/or emotional discomfort (and frequently all 3).
Sometimes thereās a compromise between fully cooperative care and railroading a horse into a healthcare procedure, especially in a training situation where the procedure itself isnāt imperative. Such is the situation with Clio, here. I chose to show all of the actual foot handling (albeit in fast motion) to show the rhythm of doing and not doing. While I wonāt go into too much detail, below are some notes on our training session:
šÆ Using target as a focus other than her feet, and for high rate of reinforcement
šÆ Target is set at a height that doesnāt require much head movement, so her balance isnāt disturbed, making it harder for the trimmer
šÆ Starting in arena where thereās more space and reinforcement history
šÆ Note where she changes focus to something outside, then comes back - the target gives her something she wants to focus on.
šÆ Moving in and out of barn to keep anxiety from going over threshold
šÆ Moving down aisle to extend time in barn without having to stand still (not shown for brevity)
šÆ Starting with just picking up and picking out
šÆ Moving on to hoof stand - a little movement of the hind legs to see if I can help a little with proprioception and to invite the muscles to relax
šÆ Filing, but only a little just to approximate - future sessions could have more, but her hind end muscles are tight so her window of time is short before sheās uncomfortable. Since this is training and not actual trimming, no sense in pushing past discomfort. I can ask, but she can refuse.
šÆ Giving breaks for her to just stand and target - keep behavioral and reinforcement momentum with low demand
In addition to this sort of āstop-gapā measure, other things that could be done to help Clio would be bodywork, work with mats and other variable s
Brandi, foot handling
Brandi, the young mustang mare from the Sand Springs HMA in Oregon, USA. Sheās been at her new home since September 6th. She can be groomed and sprayed, which my clients have worked on on their own, and haltered, which weāve done together. Iām now starting foot handling with her. To be brief, here are some notes about my approach:
š¤ Why I use a pool noodle: I donāt want to put my face (or any other parts) down there, because I donāt know what to expect from her (which turns out to be a good decision).
š¤ The buoy: used as an anchor rather than tying (which is a separate skill), as well as an additional way to get reinforcement when sheās confused, and to keep momentum going.
š¤ Using hay: even timothy pellets are too high value, and dropped hay is an opportunity to take a break if she needs one.
š¤ Changing how I use the noodle: just touching the fetlock was not enough information and probably surprising, so combining the contact with the hip with using the noodle provided more continuity and less surprise.
š¤ The beginning doesnāt always look like the end: sheās kicking because that makes the most sense to her in her repertoire of behavior, and because Iāve reinforced it before in order to get the leg lift to start, not because sheās trying to be malicious.
š¤ Shaping the kick to just a lift: slowing the speed at which I moved the noodle allowed us to explore different responses.
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Brandi
This is Brandi. Sheās a three-year-old mustang, unhandled, from the Sand Springs HMA in Oregon, USA. She belongs to some lovely clients who have five other mustangs theyāve already tamed/gentled (I dislike both of those terms, but donāt have a better one). Brandi arrived on Friday September 6th, and this video was taken four days later. My client had spent time with her over the last few days and had been able to go in and feed her and touch her. This is the second time Iāve met her, but the first time Iāve actually worked with her other than chucking food in a tub from outside the pen two days ago, when she wouldnāt take food from my hand.
We know we need to be able to reliably catch and halter her before she can be let out of the pen, and since she was doing so well, I thought Iād get that process started. This is about a minute and a half at the end of a longer session (over the course of about an hour, with several breaks and scratches), where she not only learned to put first her nose, then her whole head, then her neck in a loop, she decided to come to the loop from across the pen and āhalterā herself as though sheād never *not* done it. There were a few previous steps, but otherwise almost no āformalā work.
This little mare is so different than I expected, and I feel so much relief and wonder in that surprise. Iām largely stepping back from social media for a while due to some painful life events, but I wanted to share this very bright spot in the darkness of the moment. I will have more to share when Iām in a lighter place.
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Iāve been working with Foolār since the very end of April. Iāve needed to have a rotation of behaviors to select from so I wasnāt drilling any one thing, in order to keep him calm and engaged. We have worked on SS/FF (stand still, face forward), but it was initially a challenge as he can sometimes be a somewhat anxious horse. Now that weāve had some time to learn the game from different perspectives doing different things, we can begin to refine all the things weāve started in our time together.
This brings up the question of whether you have to have a behavior solid and āfinishedā before moving on to another one, especially one thatās related - standing still is related to movement as they are essentially opposites. As with all things, I think it depends on several variables, including the temperament of the horse, the tasks youāre looking to do, how long youāve been working together and how comfortable and confident the horse is with the training, and the gap between what that horse is initially comfortable with vs their comfort level with where youāre taking the training.
For example, Foolār is pretty comfortable, I could even say he finds it necessary, to be really close to the human. He was not initially comfortable putting his feet on novel objects like the blue mat. If I had drilled SS/FF in the beginning, insisting on him stationing on the mat and looking for distance and duration away from the human, it would have been really challenging for him and may not have worked at all. But now weāve been working together long enough that heās much more comfortable with me moving away from him while he hangs out on the mat.
Of course there are benefits to having a horse that can stay in one place for a length of time and be content to do so, but this skill will have a knock-on effect for all the other skills. The overall effect is building the meta skill of being comfortable and confident - something every horse (and human!) can use
A few weeks ago I was honored to be invited back to Trudi Dempsey: Equine Trainer and Behaviour Consultant's Lead a Horse to Water podcast, and as Iāve mentioned, we talked about bridleless riding. One of the points we talked about was the opportunity for exploration, on a number of levels. I wonāt spoil the podcast for you (do go have a listen!), but some of the opportunities include being able to explore rider balance without the use of reins as āhandlesā (because weāre wired to use hands that way), the horse exploring balance and posture without the restriction of reins, and Iām not sure we talked specifically about this but there is an opportunity to allow the horse to make choices about direction and even speed, especially when negotiating obstacles. Now, does this mean you should go find the nearest string with which to make a neckrope, and head out on the trails? For the love of all thatās holy, please donāt do that. Bridleless work, just like work with any kind of headgear, takes some training. Please do at least some of that first. However, you can do little bits of it in your regular training, and there are eleventeen million ways to do that. Let me know if youāre interested in giving it a try!
This video is some of a short ride I did outside on my horsesā track, mostly letting Siri go where she wanted and at the speed she wanted, though I asked questions here and there. Like most of my work, itās not overly exciting, but to be able to trust a horse in an outdoor setting with just a saddle pad and a neckrope is a wonderful thing. Maybe it gives you an idea of whatās possible when you literally let go of the reins.
If nothing else, it gave me a small opportunity to do some video editing, which is something I really enjoy and want to do more of. Though I admit, shooting and riding is something I need more practice at.
Listen to the podcast here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2wFyQXG2PiSD4dxkkSRYpK?si=VJH-Rt3uRqaj4UgvoyU7pQ
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