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Global Macropodus - Paradise Fish - Breeders Guild 環球天堂鬥魚協會 Welcome Macropodus breeders to exchange ideas and promote the development of Paradise Fish

24/08/2023

boys of summer

03/04/2023

spring is for feeding fry, some food prep - dry food with probiotics, grind in coffee grinder, then use powder blower to dust over surface. I feed like this for first 2 weeks until fry are swimming fast to catch brine shrimp.

30/03/2023

spechti / opercularis cross juvies growing fast. Colors are starting to come now.

20/03/2023

everyone needs a hobby, but is it getting too much?

some solid orange here, I am working on getting orange body with blue finage. this next season will clean up alot.
08/01/2023

some solid orange here, I am working on getting orange body with blue finage. this next season will clean up alot.

spechti / opercularis cross update growing fast and looking good, orange with blue stripes
07/01/2023

spechti / opercularis cross update growing fast and looking good, orange with blue stripes

24/12/2022

nice looking fish so far

24/12/2022

The fry

24/12/2022

These a royal blue spechti and orange opercularis pair I just finished working on

03/12/2022

Getting ready for colder weather, need to do some culling

TaiAquatics powder feeding fry: using powder fry food with a air bottle applicator. supplement newborn fry with dry food...
04/10/2022

TaiAquatics powder feeding fry: using powder fry food with a air bottle applicator. supplement newborn fry with dry food for better survival and faster growth.

using powder fry food with a air bottle applicator. supplement newborn fry with dry food for better survival and faster growth

another morning making food for my hungry babies
28/06/2022

another morning making food for my hungry babies

24/05/2022

top lines are ok, colors are coming. next gen juvies have more intense blue and copper, but these are pretty good, pls excuse the bad light

10/05/2022

24K coming soon, might keep a little blue in the tail and fins

Maybe double tail, got 3 so far
10/05/2022

Maybe double tail, got 3 so far

24/04/2022

A growth food for macropodus, betta and similar type fry using black soldier fly larvae powder and other ingredients

13/04/2022

getting ready for summer

05/04/2022

A grow out tank that works especially well for paradise and betta fry. No vacuuming required.

27/02/2022

Những gì tôi đang làm

fry munching on BBS:
08/01/2022

fry munching on BBS:

1 wk paradise fish fry feasting on baby brine shrimp BBS. Music by ItsWatR from Pixabay

25/12/2021

Below is a quick outline of my breeding procedure if you have interest;

1) Conditioned water, 40L tub, add 10ml 35% H2O2, in a net bag add banana, almond leaves, rooibos tea bags.

2) prepare 2 tanks, one for breeders, one for fry. Breeding tank 15~20 L, fry tank 10L. Breeder tanks can be planted with substrate, add cut clay pots or PVC pipe for the female to hang out in if she needs. I use yellow plastic floaters for nesting media From my experience, these should be translucent so the male can tend and monitor the health of the eggs by the color thru the plastic. I use yellow because it is the color of leaves and similar to what they would use in the wild. (usually my breeders are already together for a while in the tank. I don't separate them unless I am going to change the pairing. If I plan to continually breed the same pair, they stay together). Some pairs hang out well together, some pairs the male dominates, others the female pushes him around. hard to tell until they are together. I don;t use the clear chimney like the method used when breeding bettas. I find I can keep the pairs together without that introduction and the need to remove the female. Many females will actually tend the nest with the male. Heat the tank to about 28C. I have spawned fish in colder water, but found the clutches are smaller and the fry are also smaller when they hatch. Just my observation, no real record keeping.

3) I start conditioning the fry tank several days before the pair starts breeding. for these tanks I use acrylic fridge trays or similar plastic tubes that hold about 10L. I use a sponge filter with a slot cut lift pipe that goes above the water column. air lifts to the top but the water is pushed out thru the thin slots in the pipe, creates a little current but no surface motion, gives the fry some movement to get them swimming. these tanks have snails, J*p. trap door snails or bladder snails. Also place several almond leaves and other leaves to get the tank flora and flora and fauna growing. I also add aquaculture probiotics these tanks at startup so the bacteria is established when the fry are moved in. I have thin pieces of high density styrofoam squares that I float on the surface to break any surface movement and give the fry something to anchor to.

4) When the pair are ready and mate, I usually wait until there are alot of small tails visible and some fry are sq**rting away from the nest. Takes a couple times to get the timing right, but before they are free swimming, I use a 500 micron shrimp net or large BBS strainer, slide it under the entire nest and lift the whole nest and fry out and into the rearing tank. Temp should be same or close. around 26~ 28C.

5) after the fry are moved they will flail around and find an anchor spot on the original nest or the foam squares, I let them eat thru their yolk sacs, when I see some are starting to move from the then start feeding vinegar eels into the tank. These are a great first food because they stay living in the water column and will anchor to the side of the tank. when you see the sides are picked clean, you know the fry are eating. I also use powdered food (hakari first bites) soaked in a sq**rt bottle and sprayed into the tank. after about a week I start feeding BBS. I also lower then turn off the heat. In another week I move them into rooftop tanks.

Everyone will have their own system but this works well for me. the things I would stress are:

1) use the aquaculture probiotics (it creates biofilm and breaks down waste).

2) don't keep your tanks too clean, the fry will eat what is in the tank they need bacteria for food,

3) use snails to break down waste and filter water.

Any questions pls post, tks for your attention. If you like this content, pls like and follow the page, tks

Someone asked me a question about line breeding and out crossing strategies in another forum. They said my answer was go...
24/12/2021

Someone asked me a question about line breeding and out crossing strategies in another forum. They said my answer was good so thought I would repost it here:

I have a maybe strange strategy/philosophy when it comes to line breeding. My goal is to arrive one day at a color strain that is uniform but genetically viable meaning that the color will eventually breed true, but the group will be stable in the long run and can be bred true in large numbers. (some breeders interbreed so heavily that they get to the traits they want but the line is fragile and could easily collapse). I keep a set of about 20~24 breeders that I line breed to polish the color and body lines. Not all are breeding all the time; some breed more than others; some are insurance in case something happens to my prime breeders. Something like cooking, pinch of this dash of that. Also, fish change as they mature. An individual that might not have looked good a few months ago grows into something that I want to add to the line. Sometimes I can see a pair together months before I set them up, other times I setup them up the day I decide. all depends. I have about 6~8 pairs that I swap in and out define the line. ( generations ago I started with 2 males that were store bought of different stock but had the general color I wanted and the body lines that suited me. I paired these with different females with the body lines I wanted. The first starting the females I had did not have the colors I wanted (thick blue with red stripes), but the body lines were good and they had the painted tails and fins I wanted. With Thai bettas the green color carries the metallic. In Paradise, I think its foil blue. So if you go too hard for the orange, the fish becomes dull orange. I look for breeders that carry a metallic orange. I found to get this I cull at night under a flashlight so I can keep the metallic.

I line bred with eye to getting the best females carrying the color traits and body lines I want. I also work the males, But I have fewer active males than females. I always choose fish from outside with traits that I want that are males. I don't use outside females. I breed these into my female stock. The first generation I cull heavily and keep males. then breed these back into my females using a different female. when these start throwing the kind of female I want (after 2 or 3 generations) then I breed these females back into my male stock.

so in fact I am always out crossing outside males to my line females. I keep these off spring separate until they carry the traits and have the health that I want before bringing them into the line. There maybe still be some cleaning up after, but they generally fit the direction I am going.

There are many things I need to improve yet. I dont keep good records, mostly because I breed in tubs that house mixed batches. Bettas are much easier because of size and tank space requirements.

At the beginning I was much more lenient regarding fin lines and culled to get the color. I cull strongly for body lines, especially top line. Now I will out cross for fin shape and ray separation, scale pattern, etc. Some of the Viet breeders have such beautiful crowntails. I will start introducing this soon. I also keep a few deformed fish with the traits that fit my line and try and get the mutation to breed thru. for example, I have a male with a clipped dorsal fin. I am hoping a female from his spawns show up with similar and I will put these together. similar, some paradise have color in the dorsal fin, I also try and get pairs that will carry this trait.

23/12/2021

Paradise fish & Bettas: treating external wounds

19/12/2021

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Thành viên mới.
19/12/2021

Thành viên mới.

19/12/2021

a batch of fry ready for a bigger tank on the rooftop. pls comment to get an invite to the group

Hi, Welcome. This page intends to provide a forum for breeders of Macropodus fish. Our goal is to improve the health and...
18/12/2021

Hi, Welcome. This page intends to provide a forum for breeders of Macropodus fish. Our goal is to improve the health and vitality of our fish through stronger genetics, diverse color strains and polished body lines. While old in the aquarium hobby, the paradise fish has not yet found the popularity of its cousin the betta. There are still many traits that can be developed and improved. If you breed or have interest in breeding paradise fish, please join with us to exchange techniques and information toward the development of breeding standards that will help us host global online shows and allow these beautiful fish find the recognition they deserve.
If you are interested to become active in the group, there is a 3 step process. 1st, like and follow the content; 2nd: post some pictures or video of your breeding setup (small or big doesn't matter) and an introduction to your fish; 3rd: leave a message with that posting with the type of role you would be interested in: admin; moderator; editor; analyst. After a confirmation from the Admins, we will activate. Our long term goal is to get a core group of dedicated breeders that are interested in promoting the development and marketability of Paradise fish. The path to this includes forming a board of Admins to oversee the group and developing materials to define breeding standards and color strains. If this interests you, pls join us and contribute in any way possible. thank you.

Please post vids and pics or your breeding setup and techniques. While vids and pics of fish in tanks are beautiful, our aim here is to beyond that and gather input from active breeders that can improve breeding and husbandry techniques, general tending practices and genetic knowledge. Thank you for your interest and support to promote paradise fish.

Special thank you to SanYow Su for providing cover art for our site.your interest and support to promote paradise fish.

你好,首先歡迎各位同好!

本頁面旨在為天堂鬥魚的飼養者提供一個交流園地。至於我們的目標,則是希望通過選種繁殖去強化遺傳基因,令顏色更多樣化,魚體的線條更優美之外,亦改善魚隻的健康和活力。雖然天堂鬥魚在水族界歷史悠久,但論受歡迎程度,至今還遠不及牠們的鬥魚表親如泰國鬥魚、哥拉美鬥魚等等那麼廣泛。皆因天堂鬥魚還有很多外觀特徵可以開發和改良!如果您養殖天堂鬥魚或有興趣養殖天堂鬥魚,請與我們一起交流技術和信息,以合力製定養殖標準,這將有助於我們未來舉辦全球性線上展覽,讓這些美麗的魚兒得到更高的認受性!
如果您有興趣在我們群組中成為更具影響力的成員的話,請進行以下的3 步過程:
1. 點贊關注內容
2. 張貼一些您的繁殖設置的圖片或影片(大小無關緊要)以及加上您的魚隻介紹
3. 在帖子中留言,說明您感興趣參與的角色,例如管理員、版主、編輯、分析師等。在管理員確認後,我們將激活你的身份。

我們的長期目標是讓一群對促進天堂鬥魚的開發和推廣行銷感興趣的敬業繁殖者的核心小組。要實現這一目標的途徑包括組建一個管理委員會來監督該小組,並蒐集資料來定義育種標準和顏色品系。如果您對此感興趣,請加入我們並以任何可能的方式做出貢獻,謝謝!

請大家多發布短片和圖片,分享您的育種設置和技術。雖然你可能已經覺得魚缸裡的魚拍攝出來已經很漂亮,但我們的目標並不止於此,我們必須多收集各繁殖者的意見,以改進育種和飼養技術、一般日常照料技術以至遺傳知識等。

謹此感謝您對天堂鬥魚推廣的關注和支持。
( 特別鳴謝 San Yow Su 為我們的網站提供封面設計 )

18/12/2021

Short vid on my fry feeding methods. Pls like and comment. Appreciate any questions and feedback.

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