Barbet Moderne: a breed created on a myth, in 1990.

20/11/2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TcW7qDWayI
Enjoy this video of a Barbet Moderne >> understand nicely cross bred with love, and its matted coat of an ungroomed poodle.

19/11/2023

https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/south/allu-arjun-and-allu-arha-groove-together-in-unseen-photos-from-varun-tej-lavanya-tripathis-wedding-baraat-1259222
They are calling the Poodle by its right name: a BARBET !!

16/11/2023

https://marketplace.akc.org/breeder/morningstarkennels/barbet/432957
Inbreeding is 0% and in the Barbet it basically means crossing 2 or more breeds.

https://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=a0&ids=3:1452354;2:1291382&g=4&p=bar&date=iso&o=elastic
Keep in mind that in the Barbet, regardless on whether Vieux or Moderne, there is:
- Spanish Water Dog > Ubrique and some imported in the early 80s hidden behind ""homemade" pedigrees
- Irish Water Spaniel( not in all ""lines")
- 2 lines of Portuguese Water Dog ( + what was imported in the 60's from Portugal> suspected Portuguese Sheep Dog TYPE
- Tons of Poodle geared into the Barbet Moderne as its foundation stock in the early 90's Apiele/Wycliffe/ Eaton, and many others' blood.

Selection on TYPE or lack of any type of selection will determine the contents of the litter born. Generally, they are very mixed.

02/11/2023

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=911885906967027&set=a.827256985429920&type=3&comment_id=1366625627312383¬if_id=1698932905786496¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif

The Barbet Moderne is a cross of many breeds and very much looks like a matted/ungroomed Poodle. It was created in the 1980s and has nothing to do with the old breed which is a Griffon Barbet.

An archetypic water dog of France, the Barbet is a rustic breed of medium size and balanced proportions who appears in artwork as early as the 16th century.

Why do you love the breed?

30/10/2023

When looking to save a breed from extinction, don't you think that standards from the beginning onwards, meaning when standards were written, ought to be consulted for historical and FACTUAL information?

Can a race that evolved in relatively short time, based on reasoning that rest its foundations on modern noventieth (20th) century cynognostics, be compared to a race whose morphology is, in part, the result of slow natural adaptation to a specific environment? A woring gundog/bird dog?

>>>> Speaking of Barbet Moderne/Poodle TYPE in AKC standard.

Others, on the other hand, have existed since before the concepts that lead to modern caninophilia were developed. The standard that outlines is descriptive, because it was drafted from the observation of traditional dogs that already existed.>>> not from showdogs, but working gundogs/bird dogs

Despite many people relegate the history of dogs, and breeds, to nothing more than a negligent curiosity, it is actually exactly this kind of insight that puts us in the condition to orient ourselves, to understand whether a certain type of information makes sense, or not.>>>
Adapted from Paul Géruzez, the Éleveur, October 25, 1896
Looking below at the information/pictures given by the standards we are not talking about the same breed.

How do these things happen?

Books have existed for centuries for people to read them.

28/10/2023

Interesting story on how corded Barbets came about.
It is said than Fébus brun de Marécages du Prince was the son of Duel who was a Poodle.
Fébus was corded. In his many descendants there are several coorded Barbets, despite the fact that the "corded" coat is not a desired Barbet characteristic.
It is out of standard.

The President of the club at the time was very clear about it early 2000s, but the information sadly, went no further than the club website in French and in France.
Many, seeing cords, thought they would also make great showdogs. Judges are not very good with reading breed standards.
Turnix de la cale des rouleaux in Finland/progeny and Batterikullens GoodyGoody are good examples.
There are seveal others who have shown up here and there.

17/10/2023

https://www.facebook.com/100066771399302/posts/661327216102986/
These lovelies would lake perfect Barbet Moderne: a breed created on a myth, in 1990. TYPEBarbet Moderne: a breed created on a myth, in 1990.à.

25/08/2023

Food for thought s.

As we have seen....

23/08/2023

They have succeeded!
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=677765401051734&set=pcb.677772191051055

20/05/2023

It is nice to share FACTS and FACTS now point to the Grand Barbet being a Spanish Water dog.. and nothing to do with the father of the Poodle.

This is what has become the history of the Griffon Barbet, whose standard was written for a GUNDOG in 1874 and published in 1886. GUNDOG which made the Griffon Korthals and the GRIFFON BOULET and cousin to the SPINONE.
We are certainly far from the 16th century waterdog Jean Claude Hermans talks about, and not just him but other well known judges.

This dog below called a GRAND BARBET after intensive research was done, turns out to be HISTORICALLY and FACTUALLY a Spanish WATER DOG, that Barbet people and others have stolen the history to apply it to a dog which is not even French.

I say it would be nice, if French breed club focused on facts rather than concentrate on making fluffy showdogs and wishing everyone a happy May day/Mother's day/Merry Xmas/ Spring forward, Fall back stuff.😞
Having the SWD, the Barbet and the PWD under one roof ought to incite them to some brainstorming rather than continually doing what Hermans did best: modifying a standard to fit production of fluffy SWD types.

30/04/2023

I do.

Amen! ❤️🙏

30/04/2023

Quand vous achetez un "barbet" qui ressemble à un Caniche, vous achetez un beau doodle. Atention aux naïfs...

https://www.cynotopia.fr/la-menace-doodle?fbclid=IwAR1FttLmvdENjUJexKt7dXtzpIoZ6Z8XDf0QMQzyAU0Cl3IJ6jAHMyQgIHo

Les chiens "doodle" peuvent-ils être considérés comme une nouvelle race ? Très à la mode, il sont pourtant créateurs de gros problèmes à venir.

29/03/2023

Barbet Moderne Esturgeonne has been entered in the International Poodle Pedigree database. She was foundation stock for the re-inventor of the 15 century waterdog, his name being Jean Claude Hermans.

15/03/2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMpQiPhA15c
Aux ides de mars et à celui qui a détruit une race de chien d'arrêt avec des fake news...

Jean-Claude Hermans est l'auteur de 8 livres sur l'histoire des chiens, il a sauvé une race française très ancienne, le chien d'eau, dit le Barbet. Il est au...

07/03/2023

https://akc.tv/watch/6/2841/episode/poodle-1?utm_term=AKC%20Communicates%20Optins&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=20230127_prcomms_akc_communicates&utm_medium=email&mibextid=Zxz2cZ&ctx=%2Fwatch%2F%2F4%2F945%2Fseries%2Fmeet-the-breeds&fbclid=IwAR1oRnvswuJJh5esFYJ6tGzq8E2J3B69a8uyEtP6voj7AwCjAXY1jeVUx5g

For those here and there who still believe Napoleon had a Barbet..he had a Poodle...☺️
It is important to learn about a breed before you claim knowledge of said breed.

Meet the Breeds presents the unlikely tale of a hearty hunting dog who became a military hero, a brilliant performer, and the pampered pet of aristocrats and royalty... meet the Poodle!

27/02/2023

22/01/2023

https://cgejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40575-021-00111-4?fbclid=IwAR3g4VC-Ja7hz-dftSBGFItFa8J6jmXbqxROXKql6CbiCUECXvx8zk-V53I

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19/01/2023

FYI: For those looking for pups/new blood for this Spring, there are lots of litters coming up in the north of France.

The Barbet Moderne is the descendant of the standard Poodle and not the opposite, so the dogs will be similar to the picture below, of Poodles in our Barbet pedigrees.
Keep that in mind, Please!

03/10/2022

Barbone is a Poodle like the Barbet Moderne.

Barbone
da "Our domestic animals : their habits, intelligence and usefulness" di Gos De Voogt (1907)

25/08/2022

https://nypost.com/2020/01/25/barbet-steals-the-show-at-american-kennel-clubs-meet-the-breeds/?utm_campaign=iosapp&fbclid=IwAR0HG4fCFrlrE4hEVf1rEJd9pciYHCQR1ER8lOiqr3p3psAzixl7KUlmSQ0

He has many achievements!

02/08/2022

https://beardedretrieverclubofamerica.org/breeders/
More structured than Barbet people will ever be.

Learn about canine structure, how to stack & evaluate your dogs, what to look for when picking a future breeding dog, and so much more. Learn about puppy socialization techniques, check out other breeder's puppy play yards, read through sample puppy contracts, etc.

20/07/2022

Yes well.. like Barbet myths!

“Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.”
— George Bernard Shaw

07/07/2022

I do wish people would get it through their heads that the Barbet Moderne IS a Doodle...no more no less and breeders breed for money because They KNOW that is is not an "old breed"...but invented in the 1980's...

Today, I am completely ashamed to be a part of the dog community.

Yesterday we shared a post from the Goldendoodle Association of North America in which they had posted the standard they were breeding to for the Goldendoodle. I thought there would be some arguing over doodles, but hoped for constructive criticism of the standard so we can all learn about developing a breed standard.

Instead of this being the educational and rational conversation that it should have been, this turned into an all out war against doodle breeders and owners.

The amount of vitriol in the comments on this page, and I'm sure on the GANA page before they turned off comments, was nothing short of reprehensible. And let me be clear: that poor behavior was on the part of the pearl clutching self-proclaimed "dog snobs" who insist that their hatred of all things crossbreed is somehow justified in the name of protecting the integrity of their breed.

We are continuing to be incredibly poor representatives for our respective breeds if we allow this kind of behavior to become a normal part of interacting with the dog community. This needs to be called out every single time. We do not let these people, though they are the loudest among us, bully the rest of the newcomers in our community into submitting to their ideals. That is not how you achieve progress.

There is absolutely no reason to make these horrible words the kind of reception that people receive when they join the online dog world. It doesn't matter if you breed Goldens or Goldendoodles or Cockapoos or Eurohounds. We are a community of people brought together by our love of dogs and we should definitely start acting like it.

As an addendum to that previous post, we at I Love Responsible Dog Breeders would like to invite any crossbreeders to particpate in our page. We will be strictly enforcing the rules of being KIND to others regardless of disagreements.

As it has always been, this is meant to be a safe place for all dog lovers. Purebred doesn't mean well bred and well bred doesn't mean purebred.

Shame on the rest of you for allowing this festering hatred to infiltrate our community.

Do better.

22/06/2022

https://www.facebook.com/groups/714300526525440 Come have some fact checking fun!

22/06/2022

There you go.

19/06/2022

Not curly enough?

16/06/2022

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/06/15/google-westminster-dog-show-easter-egg/7625124001/
Looking forward to the American barbets.

27/05/2022

https://www.dogbreedinfo.in/2022/05/barbet-dog.html
If it looks like a Poodle, it IS a Poodle.

The rest is internet myths.

15/05/2022

Mentionned by Diguet in the 19th century..and the myths turned it into a Barbet Moderne .

10/05/2022

If you could travel back in time to the dog shows in the early 1900s, what breeds would you be most interested in seeing? What breeds have changed the most since then?