Southern Lee Cemani

07/04/2022

Here is a direct quote from the standard of perfection.
"Disqualification:
ANY foreign color in the plumage."
I'm glad the standard of perfection in the hands of the American poultry Association so that it can't be manipulated thus destroying the heritage and the essence of what are cemani is!
You want to have fibro projects (mutts) Then fine, but don't drag the cemani breed down by classifying your mutts as a cemani.
I will say it for the thousandth time. There is no such thing as rainbow, moonbeams, white, or any other color besides black that is classified as a cemani. PERIOD.

16/03/2022

Real talk. Or chasing a predator away from the coop. Lol

11/03/2022

Thank you so much Vikki Papesh for your article. This was what I was wanting to get across as well and you did all the work! Thank you for allowing this to be shared with everyone and if people still don't understand it, then it can be used as a reference for elaboration on specific points. You rock! Awesome job!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Aww_yyhFz7v0CTvuPD1z1-RblRAXvVhaCCQwmT8xpds/edit?usp=drivesdk

What is fibromelanosis? Fibromelanosis (Fm) is a particular phenotype and refers to dermal (skin) pigmentation. Mutations of the Fm gene result in excessive accumulation of black pigment in the skin and several other tissues or organs such as blood vessels, muscles, go**ds and tracheas. Chinese ...

11/03/2022

A friend already wrote the article I was planning to write. She did an awesome job and gave me permission to share it with you all. This is a basic break down and can be a good reference if needing some elaboration on something.
Awesome job Vikki Papesh and thank you for your knowledge and creating this article. You rock!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Aww_yyhFz7v0CTvuPD1z1-RblRAXvVhaCCQwmT8xpds/edit?usp=drivesdk

What is fibromelanosis? Fibromelanosis (Fm) is a particular phenotype and refers to dermal (skin) pigmentation. Mutations of the Fm gene result in excessive accumulation of black pigment in the skin and several other tissues or organs such as blood vessels, muscles, go**ds and tracheas. Chinese ...

08/03/2022

Bylaws are written for a reason. They have to be followed by everyone! No exceptions or excuses. Smh

08/03/2022

I left your group, give me the same courtesy and get off mine. And saying I am talking down to others is laughable. I am probably the most tolerant and patient person you have ever met. I taught you to "be nice" or at least I thought I did and was played.
This was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I watched them witch hunt prominent breeders, tell lies, and belittle them and call them names thus making most of them silent while encircling themselves with complaint minions to do the bidding of the mean girls club. No more will I be compliant.

Here is what I posted when someone asked about a cemani putih breeder selling eggs for 200 dollars. 🙄 He wasn't buying them and was questioning the purity and intentions of the seller, but is it so bad? Are we really that offended when seeking education and asking a question?

Carlie, take your crap and drama away from my page before we really make this a public issue that tells all. Remember Amyjo tried the same bully tactics with me. Where is she at now? How come you had to take years off the ACBA? Where were you when the SOP was getting wrote and sent to the APA? Just stop with your crap and leave me alone!

07/03/2022

I am writing an article about the genetic make up and breeding of Ayam Cemani's. I will publish it soon and welcome all to ask questions, even the hard ones.
If you ask a question, don't be offended with the answers. If you have your feelings easily hurt then you might want to just follow along.
I do ask that everyone treat others the way they would like to be treated though.
We are here to learn, not pamper feelings and say things are ok when they are not. This is the most difficult breed and they are not for the faint hearted so be prepared for a lot of work and research.
Stay tuned as I am finally coming out of recovery from my surgeries and will get much more active soon!
Thank you everyone for your support and I wish you the best of luck in your cemani endeavor, wherever it leads you!

07/03/2022

It is official. I am done with the Ayam Cemani Breeders Association. They have new people running things into a path I can not follow. I cannot sit by and watch them self-destruct. If you need real education and knowledge on the breed feel free to ask me. At least you will get a straight answer! And for the 1000th time, cemani are ALL BLACK. Don't let UNEDUCATED people lie to you even if they have a "title" smh

28/02/2022

Black is black. Waiting for it to turn black is not the goal. Black from hatch, black till death is the goal!

24/01/2022

If you spend time with your cemani they are very docile.

13/01/2022

In case some people want to know as I have been getting messages from some of the chicken people. 2022 has said hold my beer to the last couple years of issues with pandemic.. :(
I wish blessing for everyone this year after the last couple we have all had.
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29/12/2021

I have these up for discussion. I have too much happening in my life right now and can not take care of them they way they need. 3 c**k's, 1 c**kerel and 5 hens. Some straight feathered and some frizzles. Serious inquiries only. Pm for details.

25/11/2021

Speaking of being Thankful I am so thankful to Rio Ramdhano for helping me to achieve black tongue and all his mentorship and guidance. He is the one that deserves credit for bringing the USA to black tongue.
Thank you Rio!

25/11/2021

I think I might have lit the cemani world on fire last night. Some holiday drinks and posting is not a good combination. To hopefully help clarify my hiden message I will break it down. My intention was to show people to be thankful for what you have. Someone is always going to have more but that doesn't mean to give up on what you have. I think some people misinterpreted my meaning and it wasn't meant to offend anyone. I got a little aggravated about a "king" comment and was trying to remind people to be humble and thankful.
After all, it is Thanksgiving and I want to wish everyone Happy Thanksgiving.
Gobble till you wobble!

21/11/2021

Here is a breeding coop. Single breeding is the best way to know what is crossed with what. That way you can narrow down undesirable traits.
(C**k is 2 years old and hen is 4 and his mom)

20/11/2021

The holding coop used to evaluate and pick breeders.

20/11/2021

Young black tongue Walik c**kerel. The fibro process is not even complete yet! 😁

09/11/2021

A few pics I took while feeding up.

03/11/2021

Black is black!

03/11/2021

Someone stole my profile picture and are sending friend requests. I have one and only 1 account. Do not accept it!

29/08/2021

Happy Sunday everyone! Quick video before I clean out the coops.i will get some more pictures today while cleaning though. I hope everyone had an awesome weekend!

14/08/2021

Ughh. Wife's dog broke through chain link fence and a grow out cage. I would shoot another predator for doing this. Time for this papered poodle to go bye bye before I loose my patience. 🤬

07/08/2021

Sorry about the food on it's face. It has almost completed filling in. Let's see how dark it's fibro gets! 2 weeks old.

29/07/2021

Seeing many posts lately about black tongue. Seen enhanced pictures, bad lighting with a shadow on the tongue, etc. maybe causing doubt among some people as I have seen posts saying black tongue doesn't exist at all. They say a picture is worth a thousand words but they can be faked. A video however does not have filters and can't be photoshopped. I assure black tongue is real. https://fb.watch/72Ihk6wAFh/

29/07/2021

I want to share a recent experience for other breeders that is trivial today.
I really love playing pool and am really good at it. I was in a tournament last night night and while shooting a game, I was heckled by another player. I didn't do anything to cause, this but I was there just doing the thing I love. While shooting and being heckled, I realized I was getting upset and not even enjoying what I love doing. I realized that if I have to play pool under these conditions, I would just not play because the enjoyment was taken from me.
I looked at that situation and associated it to much of what I am seeing within breeding cemani and see why people just quit and move on. Teaching someone how to make a shot is WAY different than telling them they will not make what they are shooting for. Education and teaching is way different than condemnent and judgement because of where they are at in there game. As long as they are trying, why not feed their spirit to be better? If they are only doing it for money, then realize they are a shark, and will pounce on you eventually if the feeder fish dry up on them. It is just their nature and realize, they are just hungry. They will eventually move on or eat each other.

28/07/2021

Note to self, don't take pictures of birds when done working. Might get accused of sharpie'ing the tongues. Lol

23/07/2021

I might have to put this guy under heat in the winter. Lol
Many variations of Ayam Cemani in their motherland of Indonesia. The 1 constant is they are ALWAYS ALL BLACK!
Ayam Cemani Rajek Wesi. (Needle feathers)

14/07/2021

The numbers are growing! Some very nice prospects in there. 🐣

02/07/2021

I absolutely love his comb!

01/07/2021

I had a late hatcher. The first hatched 2 days ago, then another yesterday. Today another hatched and it still had a small piece of the egg yolk attached. I heard chirping from the incubator and looked in as the 2 other chicks where attacking it like raptors. They were going after the egg sack. Luckily I got the 2 out and moved them to the brooder but I hope the other one makes it after the damage they did to it. They were vicious and only stopped when I picked them up. I swear they were throwing kicks at him as I was pulling them off. Geez

01/07/2021

The fibro process is going nicely. 2 weeks old and already 3/4 black tongue.( Funny how a hater pointed out marks on my finger and said I paint tongues by these couple of pictures I took that day. I do write on eggs with date and what pen when collecting though) Hundreds of pictures and videos though. Enjoy!

21/06/2021

Congrats little one. You are going to the brooder. I am still battling the middle toenail being clear on the end with black a quick on some of the hatchings but haven't seen anything on the toes in years. I must have done something right with my strict culling practices. What you allow to happen will continue to happen. Happy Monday everyone!

19/06/2021

Well hello little one. The grandkids were here earlier and it was zipping but didn't come out till after they left. I sent them a picture of it and they were sad they missed it hatching. I decided to name is Gaverly. Combo between their names of Gavin and Everly. I hope everyone has a Happy Father's day and happy hatching 🐣.

18/06/2021

Interesting hybrid. Cemani/red jungle fowl.

12/06/2021

Spot check on a few SLC-W1 babies in the brooder. Let the fibro process begin. ;)

30/05/2021

That comb! 😍

30/05/2021

I like this pea comb c**kerel. Needs some work on the comb and a fibro injection, but I can work with him. ;)

26/05/2021

I highly recommend this for incubators. It stores a history that you can look back and see what went wrong. I lost my first sensor and have had 2 bad hatches. Got my new sensor the other day and found out my incubator has been a degree low. That would make sense seeing I had a chick hatch and the other 2 didn't. I started opening the shells and seen they were not ready. Blood, yolk sack, etc. I adjusted the incubator for more accuracy. HIGHLY RECOMMEND!
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