Monkeylike griffons

Koti
Suomi
Varkaus
Monkeylike griffons

A small home kennel of Griffon Bruxellois and Petit Brabancon. Griffons since 1991, breeding since 1996.

05/11/2022

So... we have two new C.I.B's (to be confirmed). 🥰
S & DK & FI & NO Ch. CphW-NordW-DKW-21 Monkeylike Poppy Pomfrey of Ru-Paul's, owned by Mr. Jimmie Lundgren, Sweden and UKR JCh UKR & RO & SERB Ch. Monkeylike Cornelius Fudge, owned by Ms. Oksana Zadoynova, Ukraine.
Many thank you's to their talented owners for doing such a nice job with my kids. 💋
Personally, I think that the dogs look rather nice too. 😉💞

17/09/2022

Only good vibes always served by this lil' lassie. 💞 During the summer "Rauha" added a new title again in the front of her name finishing her FI JCh. crown. Today fabulous results from the vet's "office"; tested clear of BOAS, heart murmur and luxating patellas. Thank you Ms. Oksana Zadoynova for the trust of letting us have "Rauha" aka Star Griff It's Only Love to Finland. And thank you Ms. Terhi Kaipainen for the enjoyable co-ownership. 🙏💞 Many more good vibes to come, we hope!🧘‍♀️

08/05/2022

It appears, the dust has covered the ”let's join our forces”-slogans, that were widely cultured at the time of the revolutionary Norwegian news. As it did happen earlier with Holland (Holland what???). The dust and the comfortable silence landed upon the pedigree dog world again, but I definetely eat my hat, if at the same time the activist opponents have buried their hadchets and given up THEIR agenda. Make no mistake; they haven't. More news keep coming. Germany has reached the top next level in their actions and stunned the pedigree dog people accross the borders. Their rules and regulations are already beyond the rational and will end up to be the final nail to the coffin of the German shows if the trend goes on. In my own brainstorming I have ended up to think that eventually someone just ”snapped” and decided to put full-stop to the back and forth pull between pedigree dog scene and the animal welfare people. I mean; the dog shows tend to get a plenty of criticism for being concentrated only to the looks. What else you can expect really; the judge's ”tools” are his eyes and the breed standard. Everything underneath – the pedigree with possible lousy ancestors, the non-visible hereditary diseases etc – become not evaluated in the show-ring. That 's just one part of the breeding game – the dog shows – the other part is health-testing and breeding decicions that are done outside the show-rings. But yes, when it comes to the looks, the shows can be the torch-bearers and point the directions for wanted features; both good and bad. Yet, the responsibility of the selection is at the breeder's. Isn't it tempting to skip the dull part and trust the CH initials in the front of the dog's name? Blindly trust that this show-evaluated quality means utmost quality in all aspects? We MUST know that this is an incompetent statement for our defense! So... Germany... I honestly think that someone just had enough, snapped and put the full-stop to the debate. For now. With the long list of requirements, the show organizer received masses of cancellations as all this vet certificate non-sense went far over-board. No doubt; it did. For the bravest ones this would have been a precious moment to enter with their dogs, have all the vet certificates in hand and win the tickets – and say; the show dogs ARE healthy. Many chose not to do that. I would not do that! That's the other side of the coin. Take all the time you need to think about it.

A couple of weeks back the Finnish CKCS club came out of the closet with their plans of starting the cross-breedings in their breed for tackling serious health issues like MVD and CM/SM that are covering close to 100 % of the breed. I'm not bringing this up with the pointing finger – vise versa! Facts are as they are, and I pay a plenty of interest to the actions of this breed club and how their plan is about to progress. It has been kinda heart-breaking to see the bashing and the criticism these people are getting especially on the foreign forums. Sure there must be opponents in this country too, but at least they are clever enough to keep their mouths shut in the front of the misery the breed is going through. It seems to be completely ignored that CKCS breeders in many parts of the world are in the fire and the inforced players in the game called ”all-or-nothing”. Every anti-pedigree dog list you can find these days and a long time before raises up the CKCS and their several serious health issues. These people are challenged all the time and the existense of their breed is questioned again and again in the whole educated world. What kind of steps this breed will take in the future, does it fail or does it survive, will lead the way to the other breeds endangered. That's why the possible failures ought to be monitored and learnt from together with the possible successes. Non-truthful speculations of moneymaking with mutts or the lack of science sounds like a diminishing of the Finnish cynology, that is worldwide known and respected by many. The moneymakers are deffo somewhere else, rather than these breeders – whoever they are – who will sacrifice next ten years of their pure-bred breeding by volunteering this project. Taking a big chance of failure in the hope of keeping the breed going and getting it away from the limelight and perhaps leaving a bit healthier breed for the future breeders to come. The blame-game; accusing the puppy-millers or pet-shop dogs that ”spoil the statistics” is not valid here. The statistics remain and the long list of problems exists even in the country like mine wherethere pet shop dogs are not sold and puppy-mill dogs are rare as well – depending what the definition is. From the entire dog population of ours some 70 % are registered pedigree dogs. True story. So, when the problem arises in our data, the problem exists, it is created by the pedigree dog breeders and also needs to be corrected by them. There's no-one else to blame.

I have an ugly feeling that I'm on my "winning ways" of deserving the crown of ”a dangerous person” in my chosen breed as I openly speak out my support to the CKCS people. :D Have I joined the hype and see that the mutts are all healthy and we should all do the cross-breeding to neighbour's Fido now just in case? No. The puppy-mill mutts, designer dogs and all kinds of ”love-puppies” can be anything between the earth and the sky and a lot of people are fooled to buy them with completely wrong arguments about the health (and a lot more). We all know it. But what I do think is, that some breeds simply have no other choice than give a try to the cross-breedings, if they want to even KEEP their breeds. No finger pointing again; just facts as they are. My gut sense says that the top three ethically most challenging problems are syringomyelia, boas and the DLV2 gene. Two of these involve my chosen breed in some extent and require us to stay awake. You may keep saying these are ”nothing” for as long as you want, but you_will_lose_the_debate. Full stop. Go ahead and talk to yourself pretending you are a layman. ”Noooo, it's nothing... just a little headache and the brains a bit out of the skull... happens all the time, no worries.” Or ”breathing issues..? No, not at all, but I keep the dogs in the basement in summertime; you know... just in case”. And as the cherry on the top we have this DLV2 gene in some breeds. In a couple of these breeds the gene covers the whole population because it creates certain characteristics. Google is for you, if you need to learn more – don't forget to see the pics of humans with the DLV2 and then make your own silent debate with a layman and try to explain ”why”. On the 21st century we cannot turn the blind eye to the ethics and morals. even if the breed seemingly thrives.

Another ethical wrestle is, how we should feel about the breeds that are covered with multiple issues that need to be monitored by breeders all the time, the generation after generation. Every now and again I bump into adverts presenting the list of up to 10 health-test results that this particular pairing has been through. Good for them. But does that actually mean these dogs are excelling in health? Sounds like mouth-to-mouth-breathing to the breed..

So... the dangerous me... Yes, I would be supporting the KC and scientist-guided cross-breeding project in my chosen breed, IF that was needed. From the view of the population genetics our breed IS having a small gene-pool. That is already an issue of its own. There'll be also the day, when we need to breed away the SM and acquire a longer nose. I hope, by that day we have enough suitable breeding material left. If not, yes, again I would be supportive to any toolbox that is needed.

Besides rolling eyes and OMG's I've seen in this CKCS conversation, I've felt – sorry to say it – absolute amusement reading the comments like ”PLEASE let us cynologists sort this out”. Wikipedia defines a cynologist: ”A specialist in the care and breeding of dogs”.
We are all among them: the professional breeders, the dedicated ones, the succesful ones, the lousy ones, the novices, the moneymakers, the educated ones and the uneducated ones. The ones that ask on breeding forums if a spayed bitch can lactate orphan puppies of the dead dam. The ones that ask if the cropped ears turn congenital in the generation three. True story. In the eyes of the public and the lawmakers we are the specialists, who were expected to solve the problems years ago. Look at us; saving our breeds with this set-up and keep the pedigree dog world thriving? Once upon a time there was a breed, whose breeders in NL, Norway and Sweden started a short fashion of x-raying hips for HD. One other country wanted to join the bandwagon and the HD data kept coming for some time in that country as well. Mostly with D and E gradings. The cynologists of that no-name-breed in the no-name-country agreed this doesn't pay off, decided to stay away from x-raying and lived happily ever after. Cynology at its best. The End.

12/03/2022

Not that much left from my 30+ years in the breed. But today I feel a bit tickled pink when reading the Cruft's news. The super-daddy in the picture went to the UK a few years back. He proved to be a super sire from the start and today you could see some more kiddos by him on the Cruft's green carpet. It was super cool to find his name in the catalogue as a daddy of some very typey breed specimen that were thought so highly by ultra respected Mr. Espen Engh.
🏆🏆🏆
My heart-felt congratulations to:
Reserve Bitch CC: Foxfly Diamonds Are Forever (Mr. Andy Scourfield)
Best Puppy Bitch 1st: Osthaen Hidden Obsession (Ms. Pauline MacKay)
Best Puppy Dog 3rd: Osthaen Storm On The Horizon (Ms. Pauline MacKay)
🌹🌹🌹
"Super-Daddy" Monkeylike Kiwi Colada of Foxfly is owned by Mr. Mark Sturmey. 🇬🇧 And bred by me... 🙈

14/02/2022

Stop press! We have a NEW CHAMPION in town! 😍 Monkeylike Cornelius Fudge finished his UKR CH title in the talented hands of Ms. Oksana Zadoynova. The Ch title is the icing of the cake; much more fun has been to see that he sires well too. 🙏 Well done, Oksana and Fin!❤

14/02/2022

Surprise, surprise; once again the world of pedigree dog breeders acts shocked and amazed in the front of the Norwegian news. If you have been living in a jar for the last few days and are unaware of what's up; to make the story very short the headlines shine because of the banning of the English Bulldogs and Cavalier King Charles Spaniels. The sued breeders have been accused for the continued animal violance while performing continued breeding with the dog breeds of knowingly compromised health. And you say, you really did not see this coming? C'mon; we got the first stormwarning as early as 1995, when the EU composed the”black list” of to-be-banned breeds. We cannot act like caught in our underpants when the first warning was out nearly 30 years ago and ever since the talk has multiplied with the ever-increasing speed.
The list of 1995 consisted of 15 breeds, if my memory serves me well. For mentioning two particular breeds from the list: the Finnish Spitz was one of them and my own breed Griffon was yet another one. The Finnish Spitz's position as a national treasure was instantly noted here and the actions for the improving the health were made by dedicated and organized breeders, resulting that you cannot see that breed on any similar lists these days. In turn my own breed, the Griffon, up to date still stands strong and granted on every anti-pedigree dog list you can bump into. Do I think my breed deserves this position? No, not really, not exactly. Having lived with them for 30 years until now I can speak from my heart. Do I find them as endangered ”species”? Yes, I do. Very!
Brachycephalia does affect to the ability to breathe as well as to the heat tolerance on certain breeds. Rarely on ours. But the short muzzle is there; like a red flag flying and keeping us permanently in the limelight. It is a bit of non-sense to struggle with the topic, as in the end of the day no individual breeds will be on the table to be negotiated. FACT: there are brachy specimen, who DO have breathing issues. Another FACT: our breed is a brachy breed. One day, I recon, the whole ”group” is gone. We cannot waste time for arguing non-sense like, what is an appropriate ability of breathing skills or heat tolerance - or the correct percentage perfectly breathing animals in the breed. Every living thing has a full right to breathe flawlessly. No doubt. Period.
Fair or not, eventually our breed needs to change and develop together with the other brachy breeds as much as it is needed if we want to thrive. The legislators have no passion to create tailor-made laws and set one brachy breed apart from the other. There'll never be laws like; ”you cannot breed Frenchies, but Griffons are ok”. Or ”no Dachshunds allowed, but Corgis will stay”.
Another thing hard to justify in the public eye is syringomyelia. FACT: I haven't met many symptomatic specimen in my chosen breed. ANOTHER FACT: the condition still exists and we do not know how many of our dogs silently live in pain. The possibility of this silent, but continued pain is the problem to the public, the media and the law-makers; and it should be to us. Up to date there is still far too little data available, but the data that already is there suggests we have more than 50 % of our Griffons affected by SM. My personal findings match with this estimation. The Chiari Malformation (CM) is the typical condition that often makes also the SM present. In Cav's they say the CM covers 100 % of the population. That's the ethical question taken to the court now. Like in our breed, a lot of CKCS's achieve a long life-span and make lovely pets. That is what we breeders regularly want to bring up in our breed as well and I couldn't agree more. But to make my message clearer; this is not what we are talking about when it comes to the public and the legislators: their questioning is about the morals and ethics, not the life-spans or exceptional specimen inside the breeds, and again – fair or not – we NEED to join to that bandwagon to be able to survive. None of us can go to another trial and test the limits of animal welfare laws with an evidence like ”14 years of a life-span with ”maybe” just a little headache day in and day out”. Right?
Whether the percentage of affected dogs in our breed is 50 % or less is irrelevant; it is still too much. 20 %, even 10 % would be too much. Such figures cannot cope with the daylight if tested in court and it is simply disastrous number when we are forced (and we will be!) to breed it out. With our much smaller gene pool than the other SM affected breeds we'll be taking steps to the cross-breeding paths sooner or later.
For all these 30 years the black lists of the dog breeds have been existing the response of the pedigree dog world has been something like ”this doesn't involve me” or blaming the lawmakers and the activists chasing us. Yup, it pretty much feels like it right now and there's the extremist part that is a whole different – dangerous! - chapter; they have reached their goals just until our pets are all set free to the jungle. Other than that, we have kinda deserved this, right? We have had 30 years time to prove our dedication and knowledgeable and ethical breeding skills, and bluntly said; we are still standing in the square one expecting some kind of a touch of Midas.
The response from the pedigree dog world breeders last week included a lot of ”OMG's”, a lot of blame-games and ”let's join our forces”-phrases. Ok, I'm definetely in; ready as a soldier ever since 1995. Who's leading our forces and what's the actual plan? I'm all ears! I bet there isn't any. Once again. We are too busy with our egoistic goals, when at the same time our opponents may be few but loud and well-organized. We ourselves should have our hands up to elbows in the deep s**t working hard for cleaning up this mess and proving our breeds are worthy.
Am I anti-breed? H*ll no! I am very much PRO breeds. They all have their purpose and the pedigree gives predictability and improves the chances that the right dog meets the right owner. In fact, my gut sense currently says that we are approaching the dog crisis of all time. The public is kinda fed up with the negative publicity we tend to get repeatedly. People still want to have pets, but the layman is not enough educated on our field to see the problems of the other side of the coin, jumps into conclusions and buys a ”healthy mutt” or a rescue. I see a lot of people these days being in real trouble with their choices. But before this ship turns again, a lot has to happen. Pedigree dogs DO have a future, but the lesson learnt is that our breeding practices must not challenge the layman understanding and ethics day in and day out. Or ours! The Norwegian court is evidently now searching and setting the limits for the acceptable breeding. The limits that have been there in the legislations of all developed countries from the beginning, but passed the radar because of the lack of the firm definitions of right and wrong, and the non-use of the law.
I hear breeders often say that the puppy purchasers are never happy. No exams are enough, no health is enough. As a matter of fact, I think the majority of them is pleased with very little: an easy-to-live-with pet dog, with a normal, average health that gives the owner and the pet a pleasing life together with cheap veterinary bills. For what I see, the most are actually rather reluctant to pay for any extra examining and digging up faults that are not meaningful in everyday lives! But yes, mainly people of nowadays are also educated enough not to support the breeding that is ethically very complexed. As breeders we must come out from our own bubble and look at these things outside the box and try to produce FAMILY PET DOGS with ”ORDINARY HEALTH” from the ethically sustainable stock. The BREEDING HEALTH we need in our kennels differs from that; it may and will contain imperfections, but with a lot of awareness and data. And if not yet enough said: it should NEVER challenge the ethics of ordinary people!
Am I in? H*ll no! I 'm already having my life-vest on and I will jump off this sinking ship like some bloody rat and swim as fast as I can! Let me know when the pedigree dog world has finally joined their forces and it is time to come back and start the real work. I'm ready set on your mark! (But I'm not holding my breath.)

25/12/2021

Our "hidden treasure" Rauha aka Star Griff It's Only Love started her career with the BANG!! at the Helsinki Winner Shows last weekend. On the Saturday debut she went straight to BOS which brought her the very first CAC, NordCAC and the titles of Helsinki Winner-21 and Helsinki Junior Winner-21. The very next day we had a pleasure of adding the Finnish Junior Winner-21 title in the front of her name.
Thank you judges Mr. Jussi Liimatainen and Mr. Jari Partanen for thinking so highly of her.💕
Thank you Ms. Oksana Zadoynova from Ukraine for letting us have this pearl back to Finland and Ms. Terhi Kaipainen for sharing this honor with me. 💕
Rauha is sired by Monkeylike Cornelius Fudge who was bred together with Ms. Sanna Peltokorpi and Mr. Jimmie Lundgren and exported to the talented hands of Oksana. What a beautiful chain of international and domestic co-operation behind this cherry we came to pick!!!😍😘

11/07/2021

Star Griff Rhytm Of Life aka Lucas and his spring posings. 😊 Thank you for the photo session Mr. Panu Räsänen.😘

06/06/2021

RANDOM THOUGHTS OUT OF THE SHOW BOX

I went to the sport stadium on the other day. To refresh my memory of how to run. I did that (obviously too) long time ago and enjoyed it back then. Now I only managed to prove myself that my physics is rusty – and maybe a bit old too...
Since the Covid-19 started I have kept saying I actually do not miss the shows even a BIT. At the stadium though I needed to re-arrange my thoughts. The scent of the race-track brought me an instant wave of memories from some hot days of the past. Early mornings, burnt skin and perhaps a couple of rosettes to bring back home in the end of the day. All of the sudden I missed that a lot. Painfully lot!
Besides all above I missed looking at beautiful dogs of many breeds, meeting friends for having light chitty-chat – about the dogs of course! - talked until our mouths felt like the piece of sandpaper, and doing some shopping to fill the toy basket of the awaiters at home with one more cutie cute squiker.
Being an incurable thinker I returned of course to my original thought about the God sent saving Covid-19 that closed the show venues and brought the bored-to-death me back to the stadium for other reasons. Was my longing for shows an inhesitant burst of the mind or based on the reality? I needed to dig a little deeper and it took not too much time to remember the disturbing sides of the game and my mood came significantly lower.
So... What I do NOT miss are the ”gaming” and the sort of ”corrupt”. Feel free to call it as the talk of a bad loser; I'll never buy it. ”You scratch my back and I scratch yours” is a public secret, whether you admit it or not. It may serve some individual goals – of course! - but how does keeping this culture alive serve any BREED? I hate it.
Another thing on my hate-list is my desperation to see the breed-type vanishing. I spoke about it publicly and very openly – I'm afraid – already more than 20 years ago. And in turn became publicly crucified for my novice-convicted statement. Goes without saying; nothing has changed. We cry our hearts out for ”saving the breeds” or ”protecting the standards” while at the same time our show scene is over-populated with new all-rounder judges, who were made up with super speed to fill the void of passed away experts, and (too many – sorry to say it!) new wannabe breeders. Both of these groups have remained poorly mentored on the breed-level and instead of finding the correct breedtype in the line-up or even knowing the term itself they almost religiously keep looking the textbook models of the ”eurodog” (thank you Mr. Vesa K. For this simply GENIUS word!). I hate it.
The utterly amusing catwalk culture has harboured also here in Europe, where there people were supposed to be somewhat level-headed old-schoolers. I rather laugh than cry about it. Watching 24/7 dog-s**t-pickers sailing to the show venues in their bling-bling shoes, dress suits, Burberry scarfs and nylons with another one or two sets in the trolley for the finals. It is turning to a norm, wherethere I still childishly want to believe that you show respect towards the others simply by coming in wearing clean casual clothes, not introducing your ni***es or b***y or smelling like a dead fish. Do your catwalks, do your costume play, no worries... but the crying part of the story appears when the line-up is influenced by this costume party. And provenly; sometimes it is. Of course I kindly introduce the name of the game to my puppy owners and tell them to go to the ring equipped with enough glitter from head to the heels. I don't want them to get disappointed on their maiden voyage and become thrown out of the ring because of their pair of jeans. After all at least some of them have a nice dog too. As for myself; you will still meet me in my jeans and in whatever blouse still happens to cover my body in that very morning. If it won't be enough, so be it. I have served my time in the circus. I hate it.
The Wikipedia defines: ”A dog show is an event where the dogs are exhibited. A conformation show, also referred to as a breed show, is a kind of a dog show in which a judge, familiar with a specific dog breed, evaluates individual purebred dogs for how well the dogs conform to the established breed type of their breed, as described in a breed's individual breed standard. Such shows are useful to breeders as a means of evaluating dogs for breeding purposes.” How does anything happening in the shows outside this definition serve the breeds, I wonder. And I hate it.

Even if I know I will be probably burnt as a witch after all this, I insist bringing up one more topic to seal my destiny. Among all doggy based hobbies the shows are the only ones where I again and again hear dogs being left unsupervised and becoming dead for the heatstroke. I am bloody sure this costume play itself looks like a crazy superficial adult sandbox game in the eyes of the public. (From the distance; it looks hell of a lot like it to my eye too to be honest.) But the hatred towards it is in rise when the game requires victims. The pedigree dog world feels like a bloody sinking ship these days anyway. Just keep the focus where it belongs. I hate it all; ignorance, stupidity, dead dogs and sinking ships.

So... other than that I am ready set for the shows again anytime, but can easily live with another Covid year without them. As for the sport stadium; I won't be back until there are some shows. Bursted too many brainstorms PLUS hurt my thighs. In some parts of the world the show season is opening up. The FB timelines are starting to fill up with the results of beautiful dogs; looking forward to it very much. Good luck everyone. And when it comes to the judges: do say your ”hail marys” rather little early than a bit too late and just let the best God damn DOG win!

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“Do it from the heart, or not at all...”

We are a Finnish home kennel for Griffon Bruxellois and Petit Brabancon. My chosen breed since 1991. Besides a typey, happy breed speciman, one of my main goals is improving and/or maintaining the good health of my stock. Therefore - among other things - all my breeding stock is also MRI’ed for CM/SM. However, all I can and will promise is to do my best in breeding. I cannot guarantee you ultimate success, nor I cannot guarantee you a forever-living creature with the flawless health. If that’s what you’re looking for, you’d better move on. As a breeder I have my feet solely on the ground and I expect you also to understand that life is the thread of ups and downs - even the doggy life. My dogs are not playing with the Unicorns or farthing rainbows. Neither does their progeny. What I can guarantee is that my dogs always have the status of full family members, they are loved and cherished till the day they die. They do not live in a puppy mill or in any other compromised circumstances. They do not take part to matador breeding or any other purely irresponsible breeding. They are not switching homes on the basis of their successes or the old age. That’s pretty much the least you should have to offer to their progeny that is always bred with a lot of love and care.

We have not puppies available all the time, but only occasionally. If you are genuinely interested in my stock, be sure you are ready to wait and your expectations are more or less realistic, thanks. And I do not keep so called “waiting lists”, because people today do not wait. I keep in mind the inquiries that might be for mutual interest, but overall I expect some kind of committing prior to any transactions - in minimum to see that my furkids are not just another page of FB catalogue to you.