Thundry Farm Livery & Training Yard - Surrey

Thundry Farm Livery & Training Yard - Surrey Accredited ethical coaching, professional facilities and reliable livery service. It has excellent access to plenty of hacking on sand, with limited roadwork.
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Thundry Farm Livery and Training Centre can offer you and your horse great facilities, exceptional care and a pleasant, friendly environment whether you jump 70cm, 1.30m or hack.Our aim is to provide a complete service where you do not have to worry about the well being of your horse. The care of the horses is based on the same formula that we have used, for over 30 years, for the production of ou

r own competition horses. Christine Shubrook is our resident coach and is available to external & internal riders. She has undertaken training in different areas of coaching. �Showjumping- BS Accredited UKCC Level III Coach. Part of the National Development Programme for Coaching Excellence. �Mindset - NLP Practitioner for Sport. Centre10 Advanced APEC Coach. �Body & Position- Testt® In addition to 1-2-1 coaching we also offer one day and multi day workshops and camps. If you want a boost to your riding or the chance to dedicate some focused time to you and your horse, we can create a bespoke staycation package. Join our emailing list to be kept informed of what we are doing here on the yard including clinic dates.Although run to a competition standard, all at Thundry like the yard to keep the feel of a private yard, a friendly place where people can come to enjoy their horse and riding, whatever they do. Thundry Farm is based in Elstead in the Surrey Hills, just off the A3, 10 minutes from Guildford, 45 minutes from London. As an independent evaluation of our service we are a BHS Approved Livery Yard. We have been assessed as Highly Commended.We look forward to hearing from you.

15/07/2024
19/06/2024
✨ ClubJump @ Thundry Farm - Group SJ Training  ✨I have a space tomorrow , Saturday 8th, in the following groups:80-90 @ ...
07/06/2024

✨ ClubJump @ Thundry Farm - Group SJ Training ✨

I have a space tomorrow , Saturday 8th, in the following groups:
80-90 @ 2pm
90-100 @ 3pm

If you would like to join us here is the booking form

Group Showjumping Training with BS Accredited Coach - Christine Shubrook.

22/05/2024

We have three grades of full livery. This page contains the details of what each package contains and the facilities that we have available on our BHS Approved Yard.

This makes good, if not sad, reading.  Don't ever let anyone tell you you are making a fuss about nothing.  If you have ...
21/05/2024

This makes good, if not sad, reading. Don't ever let anyone tell you you are making a fuss about nothing. If you have a question about your horses way of going, something that just doesn't seem right, get it investigated.
Over the years I have had people come to me for coaching and their horses look a little 'off'. It takes a few sessions to get to know the horse and rider and have an idea of what is normal for them, but if I see something that bothers me I will often ask more about the history of the horse and express what I am seeing. Mostly, maybe 99.9% of the time, people will then say " well I have said to XYZ person before I was feeling that and they said it was nothing, I was being soft and to just get on with it", they are normally quite relieved that they aren't going mad and aren't 'soft'.
Now I'm not saying there are perfect horses, and I'm not saying that they can't be managed so they can be ridden and compete. What I am saying is, we do need to listen to them and listen to ourselves.

06/05/2024
06/05/2024

As a 'heads up'...
I am away on holiday from Thursday 9th May, back on the yard Wednesday 22nd May.

I will be answering emails when I return, booking in coaching requests in email date order.
I will be available through June, so if you would like to book certain dates please email them over.

05/05/2024

We're really excited to announce that this year our unaffiliated horse trials will be part of the The Cotswold Cup series!

If you haven't already heard about it, the Cotswold Cup is an unaffiliated eventing series hosted at lots of venues across the Cotswolds (and further afield).
💰£17,500 prize pot
🌟End of season Championship at a top international venue

Enter online here, https://www.munsteadhorsetrials.com/events

Find out more information about the Cotswold Cup here, https://cotswoldcup.co.uk/

Photo credit Ellie Osborne Photography Limited

28/04/2024

🤩 You could be the lucky winner of our BEST prize bundle worth over £5,000! 💰💥

Because your horse deserves the BEST, right?

Strangles Awareness Week 2024 is dedicated to promoting the BEST preventative actions to safeguard horses against Strangles, empowering owners to take proactive measures in disease prevention.

AND by taking part this year, you could WIN a bundle of amazing prizes worth over £5,000 by entering our competition! It's free and simple.

The competition will be open for you to enter during Strangles Awareness Week, so mark your calendars and stay tuned for more details on how to enter.

P.S Make sure you're following us on all our social media channels so you don't miss your chance.

Because every horse can get Strangles, and every person can make a difference!🌍💛


There are a couple of places on this 2-day jumping camp which is aimed at young horses or those jumping between 60cm - 9...
20/04/2024

There are a couple of places on this 2-day jumping camp which is aimed at young horses or those jumping between 60cm - 90cm.

The timetable is:
1st Day –
10:00 Welcome. Meet and tour of the facilities.
10:30 Setting productive goals, preparing and planning for a show or the next step.
12:00 Lunch
13:00 Unmounted work on rider position
14:00 First group – pole & flatwork
15:30 Second group – pole & flatwork

2nd Day -
9:00 Meet to recap on the previous day.
9:30 First group – jumping technique exercises
11:00 Second group – jumping technique exercises
12:30 Lunch
13:30 Unmounted - Course walking
15:00 First group – jumping a course
16:30 Second group – jumping a course

Booking form - https://forms.gle/d9o7SnkLtAbdJ36u5
more information on the web site https://www.thundry.co.uk/items/%22let-get-going-clinic%22----2--day-jump-training-camp/5249ce71-eb84-49d8-bb2c-bf8c53aeb3eb

Let me know if you would like to join in.

This clinic is for younger horses that are ready to give their education a bit of a boost OR for horses/riders that are returning from a break. In both cases we are looking to build confidence in both horse & rider and work on rideability ………. So lets get going! Have an intensive training sess...

This is why it is so useful to set Process and Performance Goals over Outcome Goals.  It gives you a chance to monitor y...
13/04/2024

This is why it is so useful to set Process and Performance Goals over Outcome Goals. It gives you a chance to monitor your progress in smaller steps.
Achieving smaller steps motivate you along the way to the Outcome.
It also allows you to make a adjustments to your training sooner if those Performance Goals aren't happening.
If you are thinking what is she going on about 🤷 then maybe come for a goal setting session? Find out how to identify those smaller goals and differentiate between goal types?

❤️☮️❤️✌️❤️

10/04/2024

Springtime Risks: Equine toxins to watch out for

Springtime brings about a lush renewal of vegetation, but hidden within this greenery lurk potential dangers for horses. While many plants sprout during this season, some pose toxic threats to equines if ingested.

To mitigate these risks, horse owners should inspect grazing areas regularly, removing any potentially harmful plants. Additionally, consulting with your vet for guidance on preventative measures and treatment protocols is advisable.

08/04/2024

Worm Egg Counts are done here on-site meaning quick, efficient turnaround.

Feel free to drop your samples straight into the clinic or you can pop them in the post! For large numbers of egg counts (i.e. a livery yard) please contact us prior to dropping samples in.

08/04/2024
06/04/2024

Instant access to dressage test diagrams for FEI, US Dressage, British Dressage, British Eventing, British Riding Clubs, The Pony Club, Dressage Ireland and AIRC. You can also design and print the floorplan for your own freestyle or dressage-to-music routine.

02/04/2024

Once you use tools with plenty of leverage to control your horse, it is hard, or even impossible to go back. There are several forms this can take, including running gags, bits with long shanks and chambons; today we are looking at running gags.

In the words of former US Olympian Denny Emerson:
‘Leverage creates constriction and it can also create plenty of pain, and there is nothing that the horse can do about it except to submit.

If your idea of training involves creating pain and inescapable force, leverage is your go-to solution. If your idea of correct training involves creating calm, responsive reactions and responses from your horse, you will avoid leverage like the bubonic plague.

Leverage certainly works, have no doubt about that. Leverage works so well that horses learn to do anything to avoid the pain, and it becomes very difficult to get a leverage trained horse to ever have calm and normal responses.

The best trainers almost never use mechanical leverage. The worst trainers use it daily. You have a choice.’

Denny Emerson writes a Facebook column called Tamarack Hill Farm.

Our own patron Andrew McLean of Equitation Science International - ESI has done a webinar on 'Kind Solutions for Strong horses'
https://youtu.be/1CF5N3deW7E .

See more about bits and leverage on p54 of the National Gear Rules.

https://ponyclubaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/National-Gear-Rules-JANUARY-2024-marked.pdf

Some more interesting thoughts from Ross, worth a read to start your brain going this Easter 🐣 Sunday. Tea and toast req...
31/03/2024

Some more interesting thoughts from Ross, worth a read to start your brain going this Easter 🐣 Sunday. Tea and toast required...
I often have people arrive for training who are disappointed in their performance and who are focused on their 'outcome goal', those of you that have done goal setting with me know why that doesn't help either, and are blaming themselves for being poor riders.
Whilst we, as riders, are the ones that are making the choices about what to do next, and we don't always make the right ones, we can also be riding perfectly OK. It's not that the horse is deliberately having a fence down, it's not that the rider is giving the 'wrong' signals, it's just that the horse has to acquire skills in the same way we do. And this takes a little time, just like it does for us.

So we have to give ourselves and our horses the time and environment to learn. Example - the horse doesn't know how to do a shoulder-in when it comes out the back of it's mother, it learns that, so the rider can be giving perfect aids and it not happen. It's not the horse fault it isn't happening and it's not bad riding either.
Working with a young ROR a couple of weeks back - he was jumping by using his speed and with a flat arch. The rider is experienced but was very much "it's probably because I'm doing XYZ" "it's my fault".
Why was he using speed and jumping with a flatter arch?Because that's what he had been asked to do before and what had worked for him. That was his current skill. Whose fault was that? Was it his fault ? Was It the riders fault? Nobody's, he just didn't know another way.
So, it was our job to set him up so he could learn a different skill. We jumped from trot a few times, to show things could happen at a slow speed, and I set the exercises so It encouraged him to stay lifted in his back, his back leg available, which meant he could keep balanced and level to a fence.
Did I suggest some changes in the riders position and thinking? Yes. That's what I'm here to do, look at the picture from the ground.
It was rewarding to see him understanding that he could be slower, take time to used himself. It was rewarding to see the rider take on the few tiny changes to her position and then stick to the same plan so the horse could understand the task and give him time to learn how to best to coordinate himself.

We can take responsibility for explaining things to our horses, making sure they are physically in good shape with well fitting saddles. But it isn't always your riding that's at fault, the horse is allowed to make a mistake too, "build a bridge and get over it".

WHOSE MISTAKE IS IT?

When a horse does something we don’t want, whose mistake is it?

Most people would say it’s our fault. The standard catch-cry is that the human is to blame for when things go wrong. Let me clarify that I see no point in assigning blame in a way that points the finger and allocates guilt. This essay is not about assigning guilt for mistakes that are made.

But consider, when we ride with a group and our horse wants to pull on the reins to be in the lead, where is the fault ? When a horse is being chased by a swarm of bees and doesn’t stop when we apply the reins, who is to blame? When a horse with a sore back tries to buck, where was the mistake? When a horse lays in the sand then rolls over and gets its feet trapped under a fence, who is at fault?

We could ask dozens of more questions like these and the answer will be that sometimes people are responsible for the errors, sometimes the horse is to blame and sometimes nobody is at fault.

I bring this topic up because I see time and again that everything that goes wrong is the fault of the rider or trainer. that humans are to blame for everything that goes wrong. Trainer after trainer tell us that horses are perfect and it is never the horse’s fault.

What world do these people live in? They must be working with a special breed of horses that I have never met. If horses never do anything wrong how can we explain horses that get into trouble when human is involved? I’ve seen plenty of horses in trouble because they made an error in judgement where no person was involved.

Yes, a lot of the time people are guilty of making mistakes. Sometimes those mistakes are inadvertent errors of judgment, sometimes they are caused by ignorance, sometimes by arrogance, and sometimes by stupidity. People are to blame for a lot that goes wrong with horses.

But horses are not infallible either. Just like people are not perfect, neither are horses. As amazing and brilliant as horses are, they suffer from lapses of judgment and bad decisions. Sometimes a well-educated horse will lose focus through no fault of the rider. Sometimes a very experienced horse will misjudge the height of a fence and crash. Sometimes a highly schooled horse will misinterpret a rider’s cue and make the wrong choice. Sometimes a horse just has a bad day - after all, they are only human.

Making mistakes and screwing up is part of the learning process of any complex brain. It’s called learning by trial and error. But for this to work, the animal has to make errors, even when faced with overwhelming evidence to make a better choice.

At clinics, I often talk about the need for people to try something they never thought to try before and if it is a mistake, learn from it and try again. I don’t believe a person can become a good horse person without making a hell of a lot of mistakes that then form the basis of an encyclopedic knowledge about horses and training. The more mistakes a person learns from, the bigger their database of knowledge.

This is no less true of other species, including horses. Horses have to screw up to learn and understand how the world works. Like us, it’s how their brains operate in the process of learning. It’s called experience.

I’m not saying these things to give people excuses or a free pass for poor outcomes in their horse training. I’m saying these things because I don’t see the point of the trite mindlessness that gets passed for wisdom in the horse world. It’s all very well to quote some horsemanship guru as saying “Horses are never wrong….” (or something similar) to make us feel wise, loving, and sympathetic towards our horses. But the reality is that a statement like that is pure bovine (or should I say equine?) manure. It is detached from reality. Horses do make mistakes and horses do screw up – just like people, dogs, cats, chickens, axolotls, dolphins, and just about any animal with a sophisticated central nervous system that can make choices.

I know humans are smarter than horses and better at problem-solving than any horse I have met. That’s why I am the senior partner in the relationship with my horses. Yet every day I work with them I still make mistakes. So why would I ever suppose that horses don’t make mistakes? If I can make mistakes, so can they. They are not machines.

The important part to keep in mind is to own and correct the mistakes we make and not to blame the horse for something we did wrong. And even if it is the horse’s mistake, our job is to guide them to a better response and not take it out on the horse. We need to accept that the blunder is part of the learning process and embrace it while at the same time offering a correction. Instead of criticizing a horse for making a mistake, guide them to doing better.

It is important people question everything they are told, even when it comes from their favourite horse person. Does anyone believe horses always make perfect choices and the reason something goes wrong is never that the horse made an error?

Many riding students already carry feelings of inadequacy and in my opinion, it is not okay for teachers to add further to a student’s burden of guilt by telling them that every mistake is always their fault.

Horses don’t need us to assign them special abilities they don’t possess (like being infallible) to make them any more special. We do them no favours by not seeing horses for what they are – wonderful, beautiful, honest, and imperfect.

💫 "Let's Get Going" 2 Day Jumping Clinic 💫This clinic is for younger horses that are ready to give their education a bit...
30/03/2024

💫 "Let's Get Going" 2 Day Jumping Clinic 💫

This clinic is for younger horses that are ready to give their education a bit of a boost OR for horses/riders that are returning from a break.
In both cases we are looking to build confidence in both horse & rider and work on rideability ………. So lets get going! Have an intensive training session and move on to the next level.

Full details, timetable and booking form are on our website www.thundry.co.uk/items
Overnight stables are available.

This clinic is for younger horses that are ready to give their education a bit of a boost OR for horses/riders that are returning from a break. In both cases we are looking to build confidence in both horse & rider and work on rideability ………. So lets get going! Have an intensive training sess...

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Thundry Farm, Farnham Road
Godalming
GU86LE

Opening Hours

Monday 7:30am - 5:30pm
Tuesday 7:30am - 5:30pm
Wednesday 7:30am - 5:30pm
Thursday 7:30am - 5:30pm
Friday 7:30am - 5:30pm
Saturday 7:30am - 5:30pm
Sunday 7:30am - 5:30pm

Telephone

+441252702552

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Thundry Farm Livery and Training Centre can offer you and your horse great facilities, exceptional care and a pleasant, friendly environment whether you jump 1.00m, 1.30m or hack. Our aim is to provide a complete service where you do not have to worry about the well being of your horse. The care of the horses is based on the same formula that we have used, for over 25 years, for the production of our own competition horses. Although run to a competition standard, all at Thundry like the yard to keep the feel of a private yard, a friendly place where people can come to enjoy their horse and riding, whatever they do. As an independent evaluation of our service we are a BHS Approved Livery Yard. We have been assessed as Highly Commended. Thundry Farm is based in Elstead in the Surrey Hills, just off the A3, 10 minutes from Guildford, 45 minutes from London. It has excellent access to plenty of hacking on sand, with limited roadwork. We look forward to hearing from you. Join our emailing list to be kept informed of what we are doing here on the yard including clinic dates.


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