Deer Creek Stables

Deer Creek Stables We're a small boarding stable at the base of Mount Emily in Eastern Oregon.

I am so glad the holidays are over and I can get back into a good barn routine. Today was Mustang day! Maverick, my amaz...
01/09/2025

I am so glad the holidays are over and I can get back into a good barn routine. Today was Mustang day!

Maverick, my amazing South Steens boy, got his feed done and I spent some time working on the mud on his girth area. I’m doing the Northwood Challenge with him and am logging time and rides. 1.25/40 hours

Then I spent some time with Valentina, Huckleberry, Paloma, Henna, and Tango - all mustangs. They are all very different personalities and so much fun to work with.

Henna, Brent’s Mustang Challenge mare, continues to impress us. She is something special. Once she decided we were okay, she’s all in. Complete trust and very little concern for anything we throw at her. I pulled out my stick & string to see what she’d think and she didn’t even inspect it. Zero reaction when I tossed the string over her back and around her legs. She’s amazing!

Whiskey is back in training after some time off! She’s such a nice girl. I can’t believe nobody has snatched her up!Whis...
01/07/2025

Whiskey is back in training after some time off! She’s such a nice girl. I can’t believe nobody has snatched her up!

Whiskey is a 3yo Stinkingwater mare that stands just under 15h currently. She has been hauled to clinics and shown at the MYWY competition last summer. She has a calm personality and is a quick learner.

12/03/2024

"Slower allows better understanding, better understanding allows more smoothness, smoothness allows more speed. If we want more speed, maintain smoothness and understanding by going slower."

Yeah, banamine doesn’t go in the muscle folks. P,ease consult your veterinarian before administering.
11/20/2024

Yeah, banamine doesn’t go in the muscle folks. P,ease consult your veterinarian before administering.

Yellowstone fans that are real horse people got a little confusing information on the Sunday, November 17, 2024 episode. This popular show appears to take pride in its western production on being very authentic - yet some how they had a BIG mistake with treating a horse with intramuscular Banamine.

What is the BIG deal? In this Yellowstone episode a horse was administered Banamine (Flunixin Meglumine) intramuscularly. Yet the nonsteroidal, anti-inflammatory is only administered orally (in the mouth) or intravenously (in the vein). Remember Banamine is never recommend to be administered to horses any other way.

Why not? Banamine causes muscle damage when injected intramuscularly! There are spores of bacteria known as clostridium that can rest in healthy muscle; however, the bacteria may awaken if the muscle becomes damaged from an IM injection particularly when Banamine is administered this way. This may cause clostridial myositis - which is a serious and sometimes fatal disease. Post injection signs of a problem would be swelling and a painful injection site with gas underneath the skin. The bacterial toxins may migrate into the bloodstream causing depression, colic, fever and a lose of appetite. Treatment by a licensed DVM is necessary if you make this mistake. Supportive care, antibiotics, and possibly a surgical excision of the infected injected site may be necessary.

This episode of Yellowstone was a good reminder - what is entertaining may not always be real and correct. Check with your equine veterinarian if you are unsure how to administer Banamine.

11/17/2024
11/14/2024

We're excited to announce we've signed five new partnership agreements with organizations in California, Oregon, Texas and Washington to support our efforts to train and place more wild horses and burros into good homes.

Forever Branded is our new nation-wide partner supporting efforts across the country to find more good homes for wild horses and burros. Its Branded Partnerships program will establish a network of equine trainers to train and gentle wild horses and burros for adoption. Branded Adoption Centers will be located across the country and provide adoption opportunities for local communities. Forever Branded will also host annual events to showcase the trainability of the animals and build a community of trainers willing to share best practices.

We're also partnering with Teens And Oregon Mustangs, Meeker Mustang Makeover, Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office Wild Horse Program and MYWY - Mustang Yearlings/Washington Youth to assist with education and outreach, training animals and placing wild horses and burros into private care in their local communities.

Together, these partnerships could help place approximately 11,000 additional wild horses and burros over and above the BLM’s existing adoption program, saving taxpayers approx. $160 million. We look forward to working with all of our new and existing partners to support our mission of managing healthy wild horses and burros on healthy public rangelands.

Learn more ➡ https://www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-awards-25-million-accelerate-wild-horse-and-burro-training-and-adoptions

The wild ones say good morning! Where’s our food?
11/12/2024

The wild ones say good morning! Where’s our food?

We have lights!
11/09/2024

We have lights!

Woohoo! Deer Creek’s Shopify store is up and running. It’s definitely a work in progress and I’ll be adding lots of tack...
11/07/2024

Woohoo! Deer Creek’s Shopify store is up and running. It’s definitely a work in progress and I’ll be adding lots of tack and more craft items this weekend., but go take a look. I’m happy to take constructive feedback, too! We plan to have to physical store ready in a couple months.

If you have any tack or horse-related items to sell, message us for an appointment.

Deercreekstables.myshopify.com

Good morning,Still have some spots open for training.  Great time to get the youngsters started.
11/06/2024

Good morning,
Still have some spots open for training. Great time to get the youngsters started.

11/05/2024
OHSET practice starts today, so the arena won’t be available for haul-ins on Saturdays until after 4:00. We will have el...
11/02/2024

OHSET practice starts today, so the arena won’t be available for haul-ins on Saturdays until after 4:00. We will have electricity back to the barn next week! I’m so excited!!!

10/30/2024

After seeing multiple videos posted by various breeders bragging about their 2 ½ year olds/recently turned 3 year olds and sharing videos of them cantering around in the arena, I have decided to once again circulate the below article.

First of all, breeders *should* have the knowledge to understand a horse’s fragile and slow maturing musculoskeletal system. Breeders should not condone their own horses let along anyone’s horses being cantered around under saddle at an incredibly young age. Period. This sets a terrible example and is quite honestly animal abuse. Just because a horse does not object does not mean it is right. And quite frankly, most of the videos posted show animals that are already in pain or developing pain…

As breeders, we should strive to produce healthy and sound animals. We should promote horsemanship that produces long term soundness. No, starting a horse later does not guarantee soundness. But it certainly helps.

I am a firm believer in scientifically backed approaches to horsemanship. You can’t argue with science that has been proven time and time again. Let’s dispel some stupid rumors:

1. There is no such thing as a (skeletally) slow maturing horse or one that is fast maturing. No horse is skeletally mature before the age of 6. And that is on the low estimate for age.

2. Growth plates are not just in the knee. Every bone behind the skull has a growth plate. Not every single one needs to be converted to bone before starting. There is a schedule of when bone fuses…this is the information needed to know when to start a horse. Not their outward appearance. It is a known fact that during growth, proprioceptive awareness can regress, greatly increasing the risk of injury.

3. Starting a horse is not the same thing as riding a horse. Starting a horse does not mean cantering it 3-4 days a week in an arena.

4. Injecting a horse that is in pain does not mean you fixed a problem. You masked it.

5. You can build correct muscle and teach a horse how to move their body from the ground. This creates a solid foundation to work from once your horse is ready to actually be backed. Teach a horse to use its body correctly before backing and you’ll save yourself a lot of vet bills down the line.

Hocks are “late” for maturity. The growth plates on the tibial and fibular tarsals do not fuse until a horse is 3-3 ½. Ever wonder why so many horses seem to have hocks issues?? Horses need to learn to carry themselves and their own weight well before adding a rider.

The growth plates that are LAST to close are at the base of the neck. This area is where we ask a horse to raise the base of their neck and come round. If under too much stress, the growth plates can fracture or be permanently damaged.

There are DOZENS of activities you can do with a young horse to build healthy muscular development. None of them involve a saddle or your weight on their back. Teaching a horse to carry themselves correctly BEFORE adding a rider is essential and cannot be done in a week. A 2 ½ year old horse is a baby. Mentally and physically. We see far too many injured performance horses at VERY young ages - broken down and/or sour from work. It’s wrong. Period. They need slow and steady work and need time to recover from even the slightest of injuries.

PLEASE, if you are considering when you should start your horse and what that work load should look like, please read the below. There are some wonderful things you can do with your young developing horse. Please don’t rush a year out of greed.

http://www.equinestudies.org/ranger_2008/ranger_piece_2008_pdf1.pdf

Have extra tack or other horse-related items that need sold? Ned some extra money for the holidays? Our physical tack st...
10/28/2024

Have extra tack or other horse-related items that need sold? Ned some extra money for the holidays? Our physical tack store isn’t open yet, but we’re ready to starting listing online! Message or call to make an appointment.

Yes! Dominance theory has done so much harm in the training of dogs, horses, and other animals. If you really study a he...
10/23/2024

Yes! Dominance theory has done so much harm in the training of dogs, horses, and other animals. If you really study a herd of horses, their hierarchy is dynamic and fluid, not set.

Dominance theory was a terrible mistake, that even the scientist who cataloged it, regrets doing. The deep level of misunderstanding that happened based on inappropriate studies just spiraled out of control into a culturally accepted excuse to train and work with animals with force and punishment.

Dominance theory was the idea that animals, horses included, have a linear dominance and set roles within the herd. The idea that there is a set leader, a decision maker, who controls the other horses' behaviors through threats and the other horses love this horse as their leader. The idea that horses have a linear set hierarchy that determines who's in charge and only changes if overthrown by someone stronger. These deeply flawed ideas have lead people to believe that they can be the leader horse by mimicking equine behavior, they misunderstood, justifying their use of forceful physical control and punishment to train behavior. All under the idea of being a "good leader".

The thing is, science is constantly growing and self-correcting. As we spend more time actually studying horses in various scenarios and environments, and each species individually, their family units, their herds, packs, groups, etc... We have learned this concept of dominance is wildly inaccurate and deeply unhealthy, only seen in extreme, inappropriate environments (like old overpacked zoos with many unrelated animals, as the original studies were based on).

What's really going on then? What is Dominance really? Do we need to be dominant?

Horse herds really work in a much more fluid and dynamic manner, it's not a linear hierarchy. Horses make decisions based on need, if someone has a need, they satisfy that need, the other horses stay with them out of social bonds and safety in numbers. A secure, confident horse will be more likely to make decisions that lead away from the group, while insecure, nervous horses might be less likely to make decisions, sticking more closely to the center of the herd. This isn't leadership or dominance, just confidence, in themselves and their world. This changes constantly. A confident horse may be more clingy and insecure if they have a pain problem, if they're pregnant, or if they're sick. This dynamic is constantly flowing. Who makes the decision, is up to how much the individual wants something. Who stays or goes in the herd is based on social bonds, friendships, familial relationships, and resource needs.

What was frequently mistaken as "dominance" was actually determined roles of priority access to resources. If a resource is limited, the herd knows who has first access, usually the bully. This varies by resource, my sweet itch mare has priority access to the shelter, while she doesn't care about defending food resources. She may shove everyone out of her way for shelter from bugs, but someone else may shove her out of the way for food. A group of 2 might pair up to move off a single horse who would typically move either of them individually. This access to resources is determined with little squabbles, but usually is limited to just some body language threatening gestures. It would be unhealthy if the herd were to compromise each other in fights over resources, when they have the bigger threat of predators they need to remain safe for. We only see extreme linear resource guarding in domestic settings where resources are limited. If hay is fed in limited supply one horse may always get priority access. If there isn't enough shelter, one horse may not let the others in it. This isn't dominance, but resource guarding. This isn't leadership, but the opposite, a horse who is deeply insecure in their resources, in their safety, violently defending themselves. If one horse resource guards excessively, most of the other horses avoid them, ignore them, don't want to groom with them, and don't want to risk dealing with them. They're like a human child bully, so insecure in themselves they act out against everyone else to try to soothe their need.

Ethology has also shown that horses do not think humans are horses. Even if we mimic their body language, they do not equate us as horses. We don't have a place in their access to resources, because we aren't sharing their resources. We are their PROVIDERS. We are the ones giving them their resources, it's our job to understand herd dynamics and ensure our horses have adequate resources in appropriate ways so there is no need to fighting, insecurity, or herd stress. It's not our job to challenge our horses for access to the very resources we are giving them! We are their caretakers.

Dominance and access to resources has nothing to do with training, only knowing how to provide care and management without creating unhealthy or dangerous equine interactions.

Training should be done with a compassionate understanding of behavioral science and how to apply positive reinforcement. It has nothing to do with herd dynamics or dominance, or even strong leadership, but rather clear communication, compassionate care and gentle behavior training.

Additional resources
https://www.awla.org/uncategorized/alpha-dogs-dominance-theory-fact-or-fiction/

https://www.clickertraining.com/node/2297

https://www.veterinary-practice.com/article/dominance-when-an-outdated-theory-wont-go-away

https://news.asu.edu/20210805-discoveries-myth-alpha-dog

https://journal.iaabcfoundation.org/horse-dominance-1-28/

https://www.thewillingequine.com/post/dominance-leadership

https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/behavior/debunking-the-alpha-dog-theory/

https://positively.com/dog-training/article/ethology-why-pack-theory-is-wrong

https://www.rover.com/blog/alpha-dog-meaning/?msockid=323ef8c5489068da23bbeaa549916988

https://www.veterinary-practice.com/article/dominance-when-an-outdated-theory-wont-go-away

A spot opened up for the Peggy Cummings clinic in Baker next weekend. This is an amazing opportunity to work on you and ...
10/13/2024

A spot opened up for the Peggy Cummings clinic in Baker next weekend. This is an amazing opportunity to work on you and your horse’s balance and communication. Contact Naomi Preston to book your spot.

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