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08/02/2024

Sadly both Dr Reiner Klimke and Susan Hayes Woods are no longer with us, but this edited interview from 1995 is a pignant reminder that modern dressage started to go wrong over 20 years ago...

SUSAN’S INTERVIEW WITH DR. REINER KLIMKE AT THE AACHEN CHIO JULY 1995

Susan: I was watching you as you schooled Biotop in the indoor arena this morning, and it was wonderful. I noticed you were working him in a fat snaffle, and I wondered if you could talk about the importance of working in the snaffle for upper level horses.

Klimke: I ride at home only once a week on the double bridle.

Susan: Do you mean for most of your Grand Prix horses, or for this one especially?

Klimke: All. I want to have them very light in my hand. It is easier when they are really “through”, and they take the bit and take your hands. Then they are not afraid to come out to the double bridle.

Susan: Biotop seems to be very “out” to the bridle–there is not a lot of overflexing.

Klimke: And when he goes in extensions, the neck and frame extend too. And yet there are horses who make their extensions with overflexed necks and they score just as well…

Susan: Can you explain that?

Klimke: Well, when I tell you this, I don’t want to sound jealous, but I live for classical riding. Classical riding means that the horse must go: that is, the energy must come through and the horse reaches forward. But the judges don’t always mark accordingly. I don’t mind; I know what is right. I have been in this sport for nearly 40 years.

Susan: I also saw today that you were doing a lot of work on the basic paces, and simple transitions.

Klimke: Yes. The horse must go forward and he must be happy. If the horse is happy and he trusts you, then you can teach him. If you punish him, that is wrong.

Susan: They never forget. Is there any place for punishment in riding?

Klimke: I hate to punish a horse. It must not be. It can happen to anybody. Sometimes you lose your patience, you try to make the horse a slave. But it is not right. Sometimes you see riders blowing up, even here, with top riders. I say to myself, “Poor horse, I wouldn’t like to be in your stable.”

Susan: Why does it happen? A lot of these riders will teach and talk about riding classically, and mean to do it, but then it is different here. Is it the pressure?

Klimke: I think everybody wants to win. Perhaps they think if they make a horse tired it will be submissive. Sometimes it may work, but if you really look you can see what is wrong. Some judges don’t have a really good eye, and they judge by punishing mistakes, like too many or too few strides in a pirouette, for example.

Susan: Too much counting and not enough…

Klimke: Yes. The principle is: how is the walk, how is the trot, how is the canter, how is the acceptance of the bridle, how does the back work–all of these things. And in addition, the figures. But they deduct too much if a figure is not 100% okay. You see? If you make a pirouette and the horse really uses his hindquarters, and maybe the pirouette is a little big, you should not be given a 5.

Susan: That’s a little extreme.

Klimke: Yes. It can be at least a 6, can also be a 7, when the horse really canters classically. Even if the circle was too large, remember that you must deduct from 10. The judge must be able to see the main achievement of a horse and rider, in a movement.

Susan: This brings up another question, and that is–there are some amazing equine athletes here, and some of them get a lot of points because of that. Where are the places in the Grand Prix test where the talent can’t cover up the problems with the training?

Klimke: I look only at the way that the horse moves, in all three gaits. He must come from behind, with a swinging back. The head and neck must seek the bit. I hate it if the horse comes behind the vertical and stays there. When the horse is really “through”, you must be able to open and close the frame, and keep him reaching into the bit. And right now, in the judging, in my opinion, this doesn’t count for enough. But sooner or later, good riding will be rewarded. You must not lose your patience, you see. And don’t give up.

https://woodsdressage.com/ for the full interview and about Susan Hayes Woods

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07/29/2024

The mythology of deities and villians.

Horse people are a special breed. They come in a remarkable variety of backgrounds, beliefs, and personality types, but still can share an almost cult-like obsession and dedication.

In May, I gave birth to my first baby, a little boy. It has been remarkable how even the most obvious of facts have created powerful, emotional epiphanies for me. For example, that every single person on Earth, was once a baby. A baby who was helpless, who was scared, who giggled, who just wanted and needed love and care. We share that experience as human beings.

I've long believed something similar about horse people. At some point, they were just innocently in love with the magnanimous beauty, freedom, and power that horses possess. Before the riding, the discipline, the art, or the sport, there was just the love of the animal. We share that experience as equestrians.

Charlotte Dujardin's very public fall from grace brings all of this to the forefront for me. I was not at all shocked or surprised when I saw the video. I wasn't even that disturbed because it is nowhere near the worst I have seen. This type of approach is par for the course in top sport Dressage. We know it's reflective of a culture problem and not a one-off because 4 things are very evident:

1) Despite being clearly stressed, the horse was quite tolerant. This isn't the first time he's experienced this kind of treatment and been expected to figure something out... and he isn't Charlotte's horse.
2) Charlotte's attitude is determined and matter-of-fact. She isn't whipped up in an emotional frenzy and she was okay to do this in front of an audience.
3) The rider claims to have been uncomfortable and unhappy in the moment, but was too intimidated to question such a celebrity trainer.
4) Charlotte's own mentor, Carl Hester, signed a document condeming the actions in the video, as though what is in that video were the foreign acts of some rogue stranger. What completely un-mentor-like and disingenuous behavior. He was very happy to align himself with her in fair weather, and now he's cut her loose in the face of a storm.

What the video shows is without question, not okay. But, the absolute vilification of this women as though she is some monster who lied to everyone that thought of her as their queen... is total bu****it. She's being thrown to the wolves and is being made an example of by her own people for the purpose of politics. Yes, the timing of the release of a 2 year old video also makes that evident. This entire scene is indicative of a toxic, manipulative and exploitative culture within the industry of top sport.

Why wasn't Cesar Parra burned at the stake like this? Or Helgestrand? Their crimes are without any doubt worse. Is it because Helgestrand's family holds significatly greater financial influence and power in the industry? Or maybe it is just because they were never deified and held up as darling heros in the first place. The industry knows there is a culture problem with top sport, and the threat of outside regulation is becoming real. Isabell Werth, a notoriously egregious offender in horse welfare, also ironically signed this document condemning Charlotte. Next signature we will hear about is Sjef Janssen's!

Anyone who ever saw Charlotte and her horses as flawless, didnt know enough about what they were looking at, and that's okay. But don't accuse her of betrayal and blame her for your ignorance. In that video, she was doing what she's been taught, what had been rewarded by judges via the way her horses go, and what has been normalized in the industry. She's far from the worst offender and I absolutely know she's not a heartless monster.
Because she's just another human.
A wife.
A mother.
And yes, a horse lover, even if she has in some ways prioritized the horse's performance over his wellbeing.

But she was never a Goddess, a Unicorn, a Savior, or your Guru. Please spare those of us who knew better the shock and heartbreak. She didn't deceive you: the FEI, the national organizations like USEF, and the judges have been pulling the wool over your eyes, and hers, for decades.

Remember, Charlotte has been being told for years that what she is doing is not just correct, it's exemplary. The horses and Charlotte herself are the ones who are actually being betrayed by this ex*****on theater.

She didn't start her journey as a horse loving little girl doing what she did in that video, she was groomed by an industry that has lost it's way.
Hold THEM responsible!!

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04/30/2024

Obstacle of the week: well, not really an obstacle but a movement, the turn on the haunches.

This is a difficult movement to perform correctly, so this is a rather long explanation. I see mistakes all the way up to the upper levels, in working equitation as well as in the dressage shows.
The most important thing to understand is that the correct rhythm must be maintained. The minute your horse’s hoof sticks or spins even one step your score goes way down, the more steps that stick the more your score suffers. Personally I prefer to see larger turns with correct rhythm rather than riders that make them too small for their horse’s level of training.

Here are Joni and I practicing movements 8 & 9 from the USAWE level 4 dressage test. Joni is an extremely sensitive horse with a precarious rhythm in the walk, so I have to really focus on keeping a clear four beat walk rhythm at all times. He shows his tension and anticipation before the first turn to the left by losing rhythm slightly, although he keeps the footfalls nice and even in the turn itself.

As I prep for the TOH, I shorten Joni’s steps and his frame while encouraging him with my legs to stay active and “quick” behind. I solidify his bend in the direction of the turn with a shoulder-in like positioning, and I keep my inside leg actively monitoring that bend all the way through the movement. He could definitely be more engaged on his hindquarters and the turn ideally should be smaller for the best score, but my focus here is keeping him calm with a clear rhythm throughout. After the first turn he anticipates and loses rhythm again, jigging a few steps, but I’m able to recover the walk and he gives me a decent collected walk the rest of the way to the next diagonal line.

You can clearly see my prep for the second TOH to the right, and I take my time, 5 or even 6 steps of straight collecting steps before I ask Joni to start the turn; I want to be absolutely sure he is waiting for me, not rushing and accepting my inside bending aids before I begin. Another large turn but correct in his steps and relatively relaxed for him!
I am careful to hold his haunches on the spot WITHOUT asking his hind feet to cross like a leg yield…it is incorrect for hind feet to cross more than a tiny bit, and stepping backwards is also a big mistake. Notice that the hind feet travel on a different line than the front legs: imagine two “rainbow” shaped tracks, the hind feet on a small rainbow line and the front feet on a larger one. The hind feet should not leave the track and follow the shoulders onto a half circle.

Keep your turn on the haunches larger in practice until your horse understands that he is to stay “forward” in the turn, and slowly, OVER TIME, start to practice them smaller until you can keep the horse in front of the leg and active with all four feet. If he starts to lose rhythm in the smaller turn then go back to the larger one until you can regain the correct stepping feeling. Mirrors will really help if you frequently practice alone, or get a friend to watch for the correct footfalls and alert you when it fails so you can learn to feel it on your own.
Keep practicing!

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Polly has earned her USDF Bronze, Silver and Silver Freestyle Medals, as well as her Bronze Medal from Working Equitation United. She has won several regional and national championships on self trained horses, and has coached several of her students to USDF medals and Regional championships.

Polly specializes in matching the right horse to each rider through imports from her many contacts in Europe and locally in Southern California. Polly can help find that special horse, attain your goals in showing dressage or working equitation, earn your lifetime achievement awards or just develop a closer working relationship with your horse.

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