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Pipe Dream's Justabay Hector

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Pipe Dream's Justabay Hector

Bay Percheron Stallion. Registered PHAOA. Sire: Maple Grove's Gamblers Ace - Dam: Bay Be Bambi. EE Aa (homozygous black)

01/26/2024

Hector's full brother, Pipe Dream's Double Suited is available. Hunter is a coming 4yr old Bay Roan Stallion. 17.1hh. EeAaRnN PSSM1 negative.

05/18/2021

Hector's 2yr old son, Lucifer "Luce". Luce still has a lot of maturing to do but he's really coming into himself.

02/22/2021

Pipe Dream's Margot (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - RMD Eros Duke)
Coming 3yr old.

02/22/2021

PDP Dark Side of the Moon
Bay/Grey 2020 C**t.
Available For Sale

02/22/2021

Pipe Dream's Zircon 2020 Black c**t. Available for sale.

02/22/2021

Lucifer PDP, out of Lorelei PDP (Windermere's In Command x Pinecrest Wixom)

Coming 2yr old stallion.

02/01/2021

Silk Stockings, coming Yearling filly

01/17/2021

A phrase was brought up within my Blue Roan breeders page that is one that always rubs a little even if it is not intentionally meant to.

"I hope you're breeding for more than color"

That is the gist of it, even if it's filled in with this phrase, "breeding for athleticism, temperament, conformation, height, action and not just color".

There is this undertone and pillar of expectation that an individual of color of minority in every breed is held up to. In many cases in an extremely unfair manner, particularly when compared to his more commonly colored breed mates. He /she is expected to be practically flawless and an exemplary example of his/her breed.

Now while I can agree that one should use the best individuals available, any breeder must be realistic that the long term goals never end, and you will never produce your ideal of perfection every single foal. Nor will each mare or stallion not come without one, two, or more areas lacking particularly when it comes to conformation. There is always improvement to be made, even if minor changes. Something as simple as a cleaner head can take generations, knowledge of lines and individuals combined with pure genetic luck that it all lines up perfectly.

One of the biggest realities is minorities are such for a reason, they don't have numbers on their side. When less than 70 roan Percherons exist, 20 some bays, and probably 20 some sorrels (13 that I can count in my head) . Currently lead by 10 roan stallions /c**ts, 4 bay stallions/c**ts and 3 chestnut stallions/c**ts.. Of which at any point could lose their breeder or could be gelded. We don't have the numbers and the pedigrees to pull from that the blacks or even Greys do. We don't have a real massive depth of pedigree options to start with. Also our base stock can vary in conformational flaws not only from pedigree, but breeder errors, or just plain bad luck. Something that occurs in every color of the Percheron breed, because when you have a breed that varies so widely in type and even conformational preferences based on the eye of the beholder.. One mans trash so to speak is another man's treasure. A lot of these horses only have one or two breeders, and a couple random owners.

Digging through the stud books, the 1960s was a turn for the colored Percherons to really drop in numbers being registered. Breeders passed away, sold out, moved on. I sure can tell you from personal experience that it is not easy marketing "off colored" Percherons, and I can imagine that it would have been just as hard back then and up through the years, even now. The only benefit of today is that I am able to reach a much broader audience and push to educate on a regular basis, but I didn't even come on the scene until 16 years ago.

Another thing people need to realize is that the Percheron breed has lost a lot of Breeders period. Times change and people's preferences change. Most upcoming young people through the years don't think about getting into breeding draft horses of all things. Many of the Amish don't care about papers, and your large hitches focus on raising and buying blacks, with a small portion of Greys trailing behind. There hasn't been a colored hitch in.. Ever.. And it's not because good horses didn't have the ability. But when in Rome, do as the Romans do. It's far easier to shop thousands of black horses than to comb through less than a hundred colored horses spread out. The last person to even try was Stanley Cole for the Southern States hitch wanting to get together a 6 of roans, and that was practically 20 years ago now and then some. There is one colored hitch. Watsons in Washington with their chestnuts.

So here are these standards of expectation, which expectation is all well and good, however I'm sure if I started posting on Days, and Heiers, and Hardys, and Windermere's, and Pennwood's, and Andersons ect.. 'I hope you're focusing on health and conformation and not just color' .... Wouldn't you be a little irked? Some of these folks focusing on solely blacks and some a few Greys but still color none the less.

But this leads me into doubting my own c**t time and again. Which if any of you spoke with my parents on the subject they could confirm. I don't know how often I nitpicked every single thing about this horse. His hocks, his legs, his height, his heart girth. Does he have enough neck? Is he going to grow taller? Are his hocks clean enough? Does he have too much depth of body? Leggy enough? Because I knew full well and good that he is going to always be viewed more harshly because his emphasis is not just on who he is, but his color. It comes into play on him keeping his testicles. Let's be real. And yet for example there were plenty of quality Grey c**ts over the years who lost theirs because they weren't black and there was more money selling them to Ames as possible future hitch geldings, but most likely never making the cut there either. Paint him black and Hector would probably have more mares coming to see him, but he's not, and time and again I'm told I would but he's bay.

So please for the love of God, Quit asking me or any other person if they're focusing on more than color. It's the same level of insult as wondering if as a breed we are focusing on more than height and action. These colored horses need an advocate just as much as the breed needs advocates. Focusing on color has practically killed the colors of the breed. Time to see that focus can be used in a positive manner and I feel strongly that for once that what better time than now. You might never see a lot of them in the show ring, but they are there, they exist, and they need people with interest and wanting to be involved in them. The Percheron breed as a whole needs Breeders, needs Members, needs Owners.

09/08/2020

Available! Ladies and Gents. Zeke is looking for a new home. Things fell through on his last buyer. Should mature in the 16.2-17 hand range. Very friendly. Leads, ties. Being handled regularly. This is a black c**t. Contact me if you're interested. There's a whole album on him in my photos. If you're looking for a c**t that has great potential that is handy enough for harness or saddle, Zeke is the one. Natural tailed. Registered.

08/20/2020

Pipe Dream's Margot, 2yr old Hector daughter.

07/20/2020

You shouldn't have favorites. I love them all, I do. Out of them all though, Io has really become my boy.

He gallops along the length of the yard, runs down the gravel drive, makes a turn at the forsythia bush, gallops down between the garden and garage, pops over the black roll of mats I use in my garden, turns past the corner of garden, gallops back to the barn. Stops. Stand there. Breathe a bit. Then off he goes again for another round.

Io is clean, correct, and so personable. You cannot ask for better. He is looking for the right home.

07/11/2020

This is a c**t worth considering as a stallion prospect. He'd make a great outcross for a whole lot of people because I can very confidently say the majority do not have anything closely related to this c**t. The closest about any would touch is Duke himself. He is very sweetly put together on the bottom, has a lot of natural presence. He's not going to be a 18, 19 hand behemoth, size is not everything, but he will mature in the 17 hand range.

If you're interested, let's talk.

07/11/2020

Bay Percheron C**t - "Maverick" SOLD

Very nice c**t. Large shoulder, good depth of body with plenty of heart girth. Will mature over 17 hands. Priced reasonable.

06/17/2020

Pipe Dream's Call Sign "Maverick"

Sire: Pipe Dream's Justabay Hector
Dam: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (R.M.D. Eros Duke)

Bay c**t. Available. PM if interested or call/text 989-944-4538.

06/08/2020

SOLD - SOLD - SOLD

Hacienda has a beast of a Hector son available to a new home. The best part is this c**t is very rare and bay roan. He is currently 1 of 3 in the entire breed.
He will produce Blue Roan, Black, Bay, and Bay Roan foals on Black mares.

If you want size (should mature close to 18 hands if not to) and substance, this c**t is for you. He will bring color to your Percheron breeding program while keeping the draft heft in your foals.

Contact 989-967-3000 if truly interested.
Patrick and Marie Winn.

05/29/2020

Pipe Dream's Zircon "Zeke". Sold.

05/03/2020

Hector's Offspring

05/03/2020

Hector 05/01/2020

05/03/2020

A stallion should be well mannered enough that under adult supervision, a competent child can handle him.

My stallion speaks for himself. Thanks for the help Logan with Hector.

05/03/2020

What is Hector producing? This beautiful bay roan filly for starters. Meet Hacienda Sedatas Reflection "Sadie". Sadie is three days old today.

02/09/2020

Hector

08/27/2019

Hector's other 2019 c**t, Sirius. He is owned by Joni Gleason. We're thinking he might be Brown.

08/27/2019

Hector's 2019 c**t, Lucifer PDP out of Lorelei PDP (Windermere's In Command x Pinecrest Wixom)

08/02/2019

Hector's 2019 son, Lucifer PDP - "Luce" is out of Lorelei PDP, a daughter of Windermere's In Command and out of Pinecrest Wixom.

06/16/2019

Hector's 2018 filly, Pipe Dream's Margot. Granted this is a purebred filly, but he could cross well on Warmblood type mares.

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Remus, MI
49340

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(989) 944-4538

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