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Well done Eva Boden first full season with this pony, and they won all three of their classes and  two reserve champions...
18/08/2024

Well done Eva Boden first full season with this pony, and they won all three of their classes and two reserve championships.

IN HAND SHOW;  Please note all handlers MUST wear a hard hat.
15/08/2024

IN HAND SHOW; Please note all handlers MUST wear a hard hat.

Chloe at London 2012 Olympics showing off one of her new official rugs.
06/08/2024

Chloe at London 2012 Olympics showing off one of her new official rugs.

30/07/2024

Max is looking for a new🏡 please contact Ben Bardsley for details.

Excellent article
29/06/2024

Excellent article

What is the longest a horse can safely go without food?

More and more I see horses and ponies stood for long periods of time with no hay or haylage. Usually under the guise of a “weight control diet”. So how long can a horse be without food before damage is done? And what damage is done?

For those with a short attention span, I’ll give you the answer to begin with - 4 hours, maximum.

Why?

Horses are grazers. They are designed to eat constantly. They have no way of storing their acids and digestive enzymes, they’ve never needed to. They have no gall bladder to store bile and their stomachs release acid constantly, whether or not there is food in the stomach and intestines.

A horses stomach only holds approximately 8-15 litres. Depending on the substance eaten, it takes on average 4-6 hours for the stomach to completely empty. After this, the acids and enzymes start to digest the inside of the horses stomach and then the intestines. This causes both gastric and intestinal ulceration. It has been estimated that 25-50% of foals and 60-90% of adult horses suffer from ulceration. But I won’t go into detail about this, there is a lot of information around about ulcers.

So is that it? Are ulcers the only concern?

No, having an empty stomach is a stress situation for a horse. The longer they are starved, the more they release stress hormones, cortisol predominantly. Cortisol blocks insulin and causes a constantly high blood glucose level. This stimulates the body to release even more insulin, and in turn this causes fat tissue to be deposited and leptin resistance. Over time this causes insulin resistance (Equine Metabolic Syndrome). All of these mechanisms are well known risk factors for laminitis and are caused by short term starvation (starting roughly 3-4 hours after the stomach empties). Starving a laminitic is literally the worst thing you can do. Over longer periods, this also starts to affect muscle and can cause weakness, and a lack of stamina so performance horses also need a constant supply of hay/haylage to function optimally.

Let’s not forget horses are living, breathing and feeling animals. We talk about this stress reaction like it’s just internal but the horse is well aware of this stress. Door kicking, box walking, barging and many other stable vices and poor behaviour can be explained by a very stressed horse due to food deprivation (we all have that Hangry friend to explain this reaction). Next time you shout or hit a horse that dives for their net, remember their body is genuinely telling them they are going to starve to death. They know no different.

But surely they spend the night asleep so they wouldn’t eat anyway?

Not true. Horses only need 20mins REM sleep every 24 hours (jealous? I am!). They may spend a further hour or so dozing but up to 22-23 hours a day are spent eating. So if you leave your horse a net at 5pm and it’s gone by 8pm, then by 12am their stomach is empty. By 4am they are entering starvation mode. By their next feed at 8am, they are extremely stressed, physically and mentally.

Now I know the cob owners are reading this mortified. I can almost hear you shouting at your screen “if I feed my horse ad lib hay he won’t fit out the stable door in a week!!”

I will say that a horse with a constant supply of hay/haylage will eat far less then the same horse that is intermittently starved. They don’t eat in a frenzy, reducing the chance of colic from both ulcers and over eating. Cobs included.

However I’m not suggesting you sit your cob in front of a bale of haylage and say have at it! There is a difference between ad lib and a constant supply. There is much we can do to reduce calorie intake and control weight whilst feeding a constant supply.

The easiest is small holes nets. There are many. Trickle nets, greedy feeders, nibbleze, trawler nets etc. My personal favourite is the Shires Soft Mesh 1”. They don’t cost the Earth, they are easy to fill and they don’t have knots so are much gentler to the teeth. Now often I suggest these types of nets to owners and the owner tells me “Oh no, *** won’t eat out of those” 🙄 this is nonsense. If he was left it, he would. Remember, you can give a normal net and one of these for them to nibble at after. Better than leaving them with nothing at all.

A few other tricks, hang the net from the ceiling/rafters, it’s harder to eat out of a net that swings. Soak the hay, a minimum of 4 hours to be effective. Mix with straw but be sure to introduce the straw slowly and make sure it’s top quality and a palatable type eg Barley or Oat, otherwise they won’t eat it.

Don’t forget exercise. The best way to get weight off a horse is exercise. Enough exercise and they can eat what they want!

And lay off the bucket feed and treats! Horses on a diet require a vit/min supplement in the form of a balancer but that’s it. The odd slice of carrot or swede won’t do any harm but no licks, treats, treacle, molasses, cereal based rubbish. Even if it says low sugar or the marvellously misleading “No added sugar”! Your horse would rather have a constant supply of hay, I promise.

Written by Vikki Fowler BVetMed BAEDT MRCVS

A few edits for the critics-

Firstly, feeding a constant supply does not mean ad lib feeding. It means use some ingenuity and spread the recommended amount of daily forage so the horse is never stood with out food for more than 4 hours. I am not promoting obesity, quite the opposite, feeding like this reduces obesity and IR. This can be done whilst feeding your horse twice a day as most horse owners do. Just think outside the box for your own situation.

Secondly I am in the UK and this post is UK specific, use some common sense when reading. Yes in warmer climates, soaking hay for 4 hours is dangerous and studies show 1 hour is plenty in hot weather but in the UK’s arctic climate, a minimum of 4 hours is required. Equally the UK feed exclusively grass hay. I can not comment on other types.

Thirdly, yes every horse/pony and situation is different, but this is a law of nature and all horses have this anatomy and metabolism. How you achieve this constant supply is individual, the need for it is not.

Fourthly, the use of hay nets in the UK is very very high. I’d estimate 95% of horses I see are fed this way and very very few have incisor wear or neck/back issues as a result. Yes, feeding from the ground is ideal, but a constant supply, I feel trumps this. Again with ingenuity both can be safely achieved.

Finally, straw can be fed to horses safely, introduced very slowly, with fresh water always available, plus a palatable and digestible type of straw which will depend on your area. Again many horses in the UK are bedded on straw and most of them eat it. This is not a new concept to us.

Final finally 🤦‍♀️ and I feel I must add this due to the sheer number of people contacting me to ask, feed your horses during transport!!! I am astonished this is not normal in other countries! Again in the UK, we give our horses hay nets to transport. We don’t go 10 mins up the road without a haynet and a spare in case they finish! Considering we are a tiny island and we rarely transport even 4 hours, we never transport without hay available. I have never seen an episode of choke due to travelling with hay available. If you are concerned, use a slow feeder net so they can’t take too much in at once.

If you get to the end of this post and your first thought is “I can’t do this with my horse/pony, they’d be morbidly obese”, you haven’t read the advice in this post thoroughly.

18/06/2024
Great photo by Nico Morgan
02/06/2024

Great photo by Nico Morgan

Picture of the day. Sometimes a photographer gets lucky and catches an involuntary photo bomb. Photo by 📷 Nico Morgan Media

We all enjoy picking Cow Parsley as a treat for the horses, or letting them graze it on the verges, but be aware Poison ...
21/05/2024

We all enjoy picking Cow Parsley as a treat for the horses, or letting them graze it on the verges, but be aware Poison Hemlock looks very similar.
The first 2 photos are Cow Parsley, the other 3 are Poison Hemlock.
Spotty and bald is bad! If you remember this little rule then that’s a great place to start.
HEMLOCK has purple spots on the mature stems, the stems are hairless, they’re smooth and rounded. The stems are hollow.
COW PARSLEY stems are slightly hairy and ribbed if it’s the flower stem, and almost celery like in appearance.
APPEARANCE
The leaves and flowers are similar so unless you’re a pro go to the stems for identification.
SMELL
Cow parsley, has a pleasant smell (a bit of a cross between parsley and aniseed), whilst hemlock has an unpleasant mousy smell.

Room for only 9 more entries, we would love some more lead reins.
19/05/2024

Room for only 9 more entries, we would love some more lead reins.

Who’s joining us for our first ever evening competition!

Thursday Evening Dressage 23rd May 2024 - Robinson’s Equestrian Centre

Very limited spaces so entries may close early.

Intro test only.

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Why when I’m teaching do I put so much importance on the balance of the rider and not hindering the horse? Look at me on...
17/05/2024

Why when I’m teaching do I put so much importance on the balance of the rider and not hindering the horse?
Look at me on the grey horse 😳
The elbows have come back, that’s fine but they have gone outwards causing me to put my hand into the horses neck, look how short the horses neck is at that point, but as he goes to land that locked hand allows him no stretch.
I have thrown my body forward off the saddle, literally climbed up his neck, at a time when he needs his front end free, I have restricted him and thrown all my weight onto his shoulders.
Added to that my lower leg has swung back, meaning I am now pivoting on my knee, no weight into my lower leg means it can’t provide any support.
Had that horse tripped on landing or hit the fence I would have been fired off through the front door😂
The result of my body position is that although the horse jumped the fence well, my position restricted him, my balance may have caused him to fault at it , and had he have done so I would have had little chance of staying on.
Food for thought for those having a fence down show jumping, before you decide your horse was clumsy, check your balance. Often they jump a fence clear in spite of us not because of us.
The second photo on the chestnut is more pleasing from a rider view. I am sat more securely balanced and not hindering the horse.

At last some decent weather. I love “skin so soft” by Avon to keep those midges off us both. I’m traditional and often m...
09/05/2024

At last some decent weather. I love “skin so soft” by Avon to keep those midges off us both. I’m traditional and often make my own things, but they don’t smell so good on me 😂

18/03/2024
11/03/2024

For those competing in the dressage this weekend.
Private photoshoots start at ÂŁ50

Can a white grey mare have a black foal? Actually, this happens all the time. White mares are usually actually grey and ...
09/03/2024

Can a white grey mare have a black foal?
Actually, this happens all the time. White mares are usually actually grey and they turn white as they get older. Most grey horses are born a very dark color or black and become a lighter grey, shading to white as they age. This horse was sired by the wonderful Irish stallion Spring Diamond.

What is this saying “one two and back to you” three times this week I’ve heard it and seen it. ?!I’m sorry it’s rubbish!...
05/03/2024

What is this saying “one two and back to you” three times this week I’ve heard it and seen it. ?!I’m sorry it’s rubbish! And so incorrect ! , it’s a quick fix for the ring and not what should be used in training in my opinion.
A horse should be ridden forward into a forward hand, there is no place in training for a backwards or downward hand, it’s a forced outline that cannot progress. Please think 80 per cent of the time about the engine of the horse, the back and maybe only 20 per cent of the front end instead of the other way round.

So we are moving into the letter “B”. I’m starting with “Bright Bay” in comments put a horsy word in beginning with the ...
05/03/2024

So we are moving into the letter “B”. I’m starting with “Bright Bay” in comments put a horsy word in beginning with the letter B

04/03/2024

Ben and Max, first canter. Due to wet weather, Ben’s work commitments and living out it has only been possible to work Max one day a week, so we are thrilled with how relaxed he is. Well done Ben .

18/02/2024

Spirit was feeling a little bright on his lesson yesterday. 😂 (leave sound off as it’s distorted due to changing too slow motion. And just in case anyone thinks I was a total slow coach at getting hold of him, Spirit has never forgiven me for trying to put a rosette on him, with a foot through the reins, he was going to bust his second bridle this month if I’d moved to him 😂 all ended fine, but I guess Milly will have a sore butt today )

Horses have incredible hearing, with the ability to hear the heartbeat of a human from four feet away. In the wild and w...
09/02/2024

Horses have incredible hearing, with the ability to hear the heartbeat of a human from four feet away.
In the wild and when grazing in herds, horses synchronize their heartbeats to the other horses in the herd.

George still showing he’s got what it takes. Four feet off the floor, 26 years old and one of the best ponies I’ve ever ...
05/02/2024

George still showing he’s got what it takes.
Four feet off the floor, 26 years old and one of the best ponies I’ve ever known 💕
Give him a like if you’re a George fan.

I am really interested in using more natural whenever possible, I use a lot of herbs, plants etc. In the wild horses wil...
05/02/2024

I am really interested in using more natural whenever possible, I use a lot of herbs, plants etc. In the wild horses will wander to find as much as the terrain allows what they need and this is not just grass, they will pick at bushes, berries, herbs and soil for minerals. Modern grazing methods don’t allow this.
Fresh Cranberries, like anything only give very small amounts initially, build up to to about a quarter of a cup in 24 hours
* Cranberries are rich in manganese, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, fibre and anti-oxidants. They are a natural anti-inflammatory and antibiotic, and are beneficial for the immune system and heart.
* Antioxidants - Cranberries contain polyphenol antioxidants that can support overall health.
* ďťżďťżVitamin C - Cranberries provide vitamin C to support immune function and wound healing.
* ďťżďťżPrebiotics - Cranberries have natural prebiotics that promote good gut bacteria growth.
* ďťżďťżUrinary Tract Health - Cranberries may help reduce the risk of urinary tract infections in horses.

31/01/2024

A new Board of Directors was voted in at the British Team Chasing AGM 2024, held in Worcester on 30th January, to be chaired by Roddy Stanning (pictured back row, centre). The board comprises: Emma Burton, Sophie Candy, Ed Collins, Yvonne Goss, Oliver Hughes, Helen Millward, Hannah Mahon (not pictured), James Moore, Jess Powell (not pictured), Paul Scott, Debbie Topping and Suze Tucker.
Some very exciting plans were unveiled which we will bring to you in the next few days.
For more information on the new governance visit http://www.teamchasing.co.uk/committee.asp
Meanwhile for more news 😃

I have put the answer in comments;  If you look closely, you will see that there’s a knot in my reins, it’s done for a r...
29/01/2024

I have put the answer in comments;
If you look closely, you will see that there’s a knot in my reins, it’s done for a reason, does anyone know why and when it’s done? Let’s see how many get it correct. Correct answer in comments in the next day or two 😁👍

Ok I look terrified. Try to guess what the reason was in comments and let’s see if anyone guessed correctly. I’ll commen...
27/01/2024

Ok I look terrified. Try to guess what the reason was in comments and let’s see if anyone guessed correctly. I’ll comment with the real reason in another day or two.

“ A GOOD HORSE IS NEVER A BAD COLOUR” is a well known saying, so what are your favourite colours?
06/01/2024

“ A GOOD HORSE IS NEVER A BAD COLOUR” is a well known saying, so what are your favourite colours?

It doesnt always go as planned. This is Junior, Welsh cob x TB, ordinary to look at but freakishly talented proving he c...
05/01/2024

It doesnt always go as planned. This is Junior, Welsh cob x TB, ordinary to look at but freakishly talented proving he could do it better on his own, he finished the course without me, went through the finish flags and went back to his own lorry, meanwhile I was getting back up off the floor. 😂

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